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The Power of Paradox

Posted on January 15, 2008July 10, 2025

So come lose your life for a carpenter’s son
For a madman who died for a dream
And you’ll have the faith His first followers had
And you’ll feel the weight of the beam
So surrender the hunger to say you must know
Have the courage to say I believe
For the power of paradox opens your eyes
And blinds those who say they can see
So we follow God’s own Fool
For only the foolish can tell
Believe the unbelievable,
And come be a fool as well 

from Michael Card’s God’s Own Fool

I listened to that song a lot back in college when I was going through the whole postmodern crisis of faith thing. Before that I think I would have scoffed at the whole idea just like I’ve had people scoff at me when I have voiced similar ideas. Be a fool? Follow a fool? Choose to be stupid? Why would anyone do that?

The audacity of claiming the label “fool” when so many are quick to use it in derision confuses those that harp on truth and evidence. In a world where scientific certainty reigns and forensics has replaced mystery, to assert the power of paradox and affirm the foolishness of belief just doesn’t make sense. It isn’t the cultural norm, it doesn’t fit the dominant paradigm, it leads to ridicule and dismissal. You know the list. It’s what causes the atheists to point their fingers and laugh and the Christians to burn you at the stake as a heretic.

But all of that misses the point. I’ve been down this road of modern vs. postmodern epistemology before here on this blog and as fascinating as arguments about truth and certainty are they are often a red herring that distracts from the real issues. I’ve also admitted to not being afraid of postmodernism and do so for just this reason. I like the shift in postmodern philosophy (especially in Levinas) toward Ethics (as opposed to Epistemology) as first philosophy. So people can get their panties all in a bunch in their rush to call me postmodern relativist for not thinking that how we know things is of primary importance, but they are really missing the whole point – that of justice and how we interact with the Other as being more basic and central than any theory of knowledge. And it is that emphasis on interaction with the Other that has me proudly accepting the label of fool.

Faith is not about knowledge – what we know or how we know it, it is about following in the footsteps of a fool. Jesus was a fool in the eyes of the world. He has been accredited with ushering in an upside-down kingdom – where the first shall be last and the last shall be first. He cared for those whom society cast aside, he instructed us to love our enemies, he called the underdogs blessed. By anyone’s standards he was a fool. And he called us to follow him. As many have stated recently, this isn’t about affirming a secret set of knowledge but about entering into a way of life. It is about following the fool, being content in mystery, affirm the power of paradox, and turning the world upside-down.

Following the fool and choosing the foolish way isn’t about stupidity vs. knowledge. Those things don’t matter, or at least matter much less than the values of the Kingdom. Loving others and living subversively are foolish in the eyes of the world and so we follow God’s own fool and choose to be fools as well.

Find more contributions to this month’s Synchroblog on God’s use of fools at –

Phil Wyman at Square No More
Fools Rush In by Sonja Andrews
That Darn Ego by Jonathan Brink
Won’t Get Fooled Again by Alan Knox
Strength on the Margins by Igneous Quill
Foolish Heart by Erin Word
A Fool’s Choice by Cindy Harvey
Quiet Now, God’s Calling by Jenelle D’Alessandro
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right… By Mike Bursell
Ship of Fools by David Fisher
Hut Burning for God by Father Gregory
God Used This Fool by Cobus van Wyngaard
Fool if you think its over by Paul Walker
Blessed are the foolish — foolish are the blessed by Steve Hayes
What A Fool I’ve Been by Reba Baskett
The foolishness of God and the foolishness of Christians. by KW
My Foolish Calling by Lisa Borden
What a Fool Believes by Sue at Discombobula
God Uses Foolish Things by Sally

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Gender and Politics

Posted on January 14, 2008July 10, 2025

During the 1984 Presidential elections I was in 1st grade. My teacher had us fill out a mock election ballot put out by some children’s magazine as to who we would vote for if we could vote. In my astute understanding of how the entire process worked I voted for Geraldine A. Ferraro, Walter Mondale’s vice presidential candidate. My rational was as follows – since Reagan and Bush had already had a turn in the White House I thought it would be fair to let someone else have a turn. And given that there had never been a female President, I thought it was high time a woman got to take a turn at that as well. (I apparently got the whole playing fair and taking turns thing). So in the box under the pictures of Mondale and Ferraro, I shaded in only the half of the box under her side. I wanted to vote for a woman.

But I am not voting for Hillary Clinton in the Primaries (it could be a different story if she gets the nomination). But I have been intrigued by the media’s reports on the effects of gender on this campaign. Many are accusing Hillary supporters (quite a few who are 50-60 year old women) of voting for her just because she is a woman. I have a hard time with this. I am a firm advocate of the need to allow women to have a voice and the necessity of altering male-dominated systems to make that happen, but I don’t subscribe to the idea that one’s gender should be one’s sole qualifications for a position. But neither should it stand in the way.

I found Gloria Steinem’s recent op-ed piece in the New York Times on this issue to be intriguing. In the piece she states her support for Hillary and mentions the gender roadblocks she continues to face.

“So why is the sex barrier not taken as seriously as the racial one? The reasons are as pervasive as the air we breathe: because sexism is still confused with nature as racism once was; because anything that affects males is seen as more serious than anything that affects “only” the female half of the human race; because children are still raised mostly by women (to put it mildly) so men especially tend to feel they are regressing to childhood when dealing with a powerful woman; because racism stereotyped black men as more “masculine” for so long that some white men find their presence to be masculinity-affirming (as long as there aren’t too many of them); and because there is still no “right” way to be a woman in public power without being considered a you-know-what.”(and for a challenge to her racism/sexism comments see this interview on Democracy Now!)

Hillary Clinton has hecklers demanding that she iron their shirts for them. Her win in New Hampshire gets attributed to her tears on national television – just sympathy votes for a woman. She is seen as divisive because of her sex. Women are called disloyal to their sex if they don’t vote for her, and biased by gender if they do. In all – the gender issue is still an issue.

I personally think we absolutely need more women in leadership in this country to bring in various perspectives and leadership styles and to serve as role models. But I have my reasons for voting as I do and I no longer vote as I did in first grade and am not voting for someone solely on her or his gender. Nor do I appreciate the accusation that gender based voting is the only reason one would ever vote for Hillary. But then again single issue voting is one of my many pet peeves. I find it sad that (at least in the media) this comes down to being about gender. I know it could represent a long overdue historic first for women, but I look forward to the day when “because she’s a woman” doesn’t have to be a factor either way.

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Slow Food and the Kingdom

Posted on January 13, 2008July 10, 2025

The Kingdom of God is like a well-cooked Italian meal.  Now it might seem a bit strange to start off a reflection comparing the Kingdom of God to Italian food, but I recently stumbled upon an encounter with the Kingdom of God in a book about food.  This wasn’t even some esoteric aesthetic encounter with the beauty of the earth or even a divinely inspired recipe for the perfect chocolate cake, but an exploration of food that is ethical and good.  In the foreword to Carlo Petrini’s Slow Food Nation I read Alice Waters’ summary of the themes of the book and the Slow Food movement-

“[Carlo] argues that, at every level, our food supply must meet the three criteria of quality, purity, and justice.  Our food must be buono, pulito, e giusto – words that resonate with more solemnity in Italian than do their literal English counterparts.  Our food should be good, and tasty to eat; it should be clean, produced in ways that are humane and environmentally sound; and the system by which our food is provided must be economically and socially fair to all who labor in it.  Carlo’s great insight is that when we seek out food that meets these criteria, we are no longer mere consumers but co-producers, who are bearing our fair share of the costs of producing good food and creating responsible communities.”

As I read those words, the concept of people being co-producers in creating an alternative and ethical world intrigued me.  Christ proclaimed that the Kingdom of God is among us and gave his followers the task of being the witnesses (or heralds) to the advent of the Kingdom.  Although the Kingdom was already a reality, it took the work of these witnesses to make it concrete to those who had not yet heard.  In a sense they were the co-producers of the Kingdom – proclaiming its existence, spreading it values, and training others in the way of Christ.  Active ongoing work was required to insure the Kingdom visibly reflected the pictures Jesus had so vividly portrayed it as in his parables.

In reading the goals of the Slow Food movement of being co-producers in ensuring that our food is good, clean, and fair I saw a parallel to the Kingdom of God.  This movement stands in opposition to the dominant systems of the world and insists on a better way of producing and eating food.  Bypassing the destructive industries of agriculture and the siren’s lure of fast food represent struggles undertaken only by those with a commitment to this better way and a compassion for others.  The goal is to care for people, to care for the earth, and to care for ourselves.  I think in many ways the Slow Food ideals have captured the ethos of those who serve and witness to the Kingdom of God.

The Kingdom of God exists as a radical alternative to the systems of the world, challenging the status quos of oppression and injustice.  It includes the calls to love and to serve and to seek a better way of living that cares for those around us.  The outworkings of these endeavors often echo the goals of the Slow Food movement in our commitment to care for God’s creation, our celebration of the good, our passion to treat people fairly and with dignity and respect, and our desire to bond together in responsible communities that seek to live on earth as it is in heaven.    It is a call to a life that isn’t merely “convenient” or rubber-stamped by the dominant paradigms of the world, but one that takes deliberate effort and committed passion to maintain.  Being witnesses (or co-producers) of the Kingdom requires lifestyle choices that are often seen as odd as the Slow Food desire to cook a sustainable, fair, healthy, authentic and natural (not to mention yummy) Italian meal.  But oddity and difficulty don’t impede the committed.  In seeking God’s Kingdom we are never mere consumers of the way things are, but witnesses proclaiming the good news of a different way.

And so the Kingdom of God is like an Italian meal, but with far greater rewards.

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You Know What They Say About Assumptions…

Posted on January 12, 2008July 10, 2025

A bit of a weekend rant to follow.

I hate being pigeonholed. I hate people making assumptions about me because of their preconceived stereotypes about certain sorts of people. I’m sure I fit some stereotypes from time to time, there are reasons why stereotypes exist in the first place. But pigeonholing assumes a dichotomous black and white world that is often far from the way things actually are.

Molly over at Adventures in Mercy had a good post this past week on this very issue. She writes on the fallacy of assuming that there exist only two choices in any situation – one “obviously” right and the other depraved and wrong. Such dichotomous choices she finds dangerous include –

There are only two choices: You can either be a submissive wife and have a happy marriage, or you can be a conniving rebellious domineering woman and make your marriage miserable.

There are only two choices: You can either spank your children, rewarding every infraction with swift clear punishment, which we say will produce “godly seed,” or you can not spank and have sniveling brats who run into streets and throw tantrums every five seconds and will grow up to bomb schools and have fifteen illegitimate children before they run straight to the fires of hell.

There are only two choices: You can believe my denomination/group’s theological view (plainly taught by the Bible) and thus be a real Christian and please the Lord, or you can not subscribe to our particular theological view (er, do you even read the Bible?) and be a second-class Christian (if you’re saved at all, that is), and be outside the pale of God’s approval.

These black and white choices impose assumptions and stereotypes upon people and fail to actually become conversant with what a person truly believes. Such assumptions make it easy to dismiss people without engagement and to ridicule/destroy them instead of love them. And I admit to being guilty of falling into this trap from time to time which I need to work to overcome. But I still get fairly annoyed when I encounter such attitudes towards myself. To Molly’s list, I would add the following dangerous assumptions that annoy me –

  • Being told that the only reason a person would vote for Obama is because we are young and don’t understand politics.
  • Being told that voting for a Democrat means we are pro-baby killing.
  • Being told that I ascribe to entire schools of theology if I happen to read a book by an author who does
  • Being told that I don’t care about Jesus if I insist on serving people physically and emotionally and not forcing them to say “the prayer”.
  • Being told that I am throwing out the Bible if I think women should ever have a voice.
  • Being told that I don’t care for the environment or sustainability because I am having children
  • Being told that I am rebellious and ungrateful because I strayed from the church tradition my parents raised me in.

I am sick of these assumptions and sick of the dichotomous thinking they betray. I am sick of being dismissed and rejected because of what others think they know about me. Reality is more complex than this.

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What to do with the Early Church

Posted on January 10, 2008July 10, 2025

I’ve recently seen a lot of buzz around blogs regarding Barna and Viola’s new book Pagan Christianity. I haven’t read the book yet, but I am intrigued by the topics it seems to address. With quotes such as, “We are also making an outrageous proposal: that the church in its contemporary, institutional form has neither a biblical nor a historical right to exist,” the book raises some serious questions about the purpose and nature of church as well as about Biblical interpretation.

At the heart of the controversy surrounding this book is the question of if we should read the Bible prescriptively, descriptively, or some combination of the two. We actually addressed this issue at church this past week as we started our study of the book of Acts. It seemed prudent to discuss our assumptions about how we read and apply scripture before we examine the stories of the early church. In essence we asked if what we read in Acts is prescriptive (giving us the guidelines for how we should do church forever and ever amen) or descriptive (just an historical picture of how things were done in one particular culture in one particular era). We of course came down on the both/and middle ground. Yes, there are aspects of scripture that are instructive for us today that we should follow; but, there are also cultural elements portrayed that reflect Biblical culture, but don’t translate well today.

Barna and Viola seem to be taking the approach that claims culture doesn’t matter. A perfect system was created once upon a time and must not be deviated from. We must just repeat exactly those things which were done 2000 years ago and discard any practices that have been introduced since then (you know evil things, like pastors). I personally find this view as disturbing as the opposite extreme that sees the early church as just a cute historical vignette – meaningless for our lives today. Not only do such dichotomous views put God in a box, they have the potential to lead to serious misunderstanding and abuses.

I prefer instead the approach often mentioned by N.T. Wright – that of seeing ourselves existing in God’s unfolding story. If the story of the church is the story of God working in the world, then the early church represents say chapter 9 of that tale. Much has come before and those stories play a pivotal role in the unfolding tale. We then find ourselves living today in Chapter 20, not the final chapter, but still significant to what God is doing. As this chapter gets written it would be silly and really poor writing to merely copy exactly what was written in chapter 9 over again. To do so would ignore all intervening chapters and would imply that God is not big enough to work in the world today. But on the other hand it would be equally silly to make chapter 20 utterly unrelated to all the preceding chapters or to ignore the character development that was established in chapter 9. Chapter 20 must be informed by (and in ways constrained by Chapter 9), but it must also allow the story to be told.

So when I read some of the extreme statements from Barna and Viola, I cringe at the disregard for God’s unfolding story. Having just read excerpts I can’t comment on the whole of their argument. But I can’t help but find the “let’s just get back to the early church” stance a bit simplistic and naive. We are not the early church and no matter how hard we try we Westerners are not pre-industrial people living in an occupied territory. It may be easy to blame all the problems in the church on systems and traditions that were not present in the early church and I fully agree that many of those systems need to be re-evaluated, but the issues are more complex than that. And I for one am not willing (or think it is truly possible) to recapture the ethos and social mores that defined the early church. I am not interested in repeating that chapter in history, but I am interested in learning from and being inspired by it.

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Talents and Stewardship

Posted on January 3, 2008July 10, 2025

The tension between using one’s God given talent and being a good steward of God given resources is an issue I keep returning to. I do believe that God gives people gifts that should be used – He sent the Spirit to the craftsmen of the Tabernacle as they used their skills. I also believe that the resources we have are blessings from God (not in the health and wealth sort of way), and we should use them wisely and unselfishly. But sometimes those two ideas collide.

If one is to sell all one has and give it to the poor, or even just live a modest lifestyle, it become fairly difficult to develop and use certain talents, even for the greater good. If one has the gift of music like David, the acquisition and upkeep of musical equipment costs a lot of money. Much time must be spent on practice which much be subsidized in some way. The same is true of any of the performing arts or sports – dance, skating, drama, skiing, cycling… A great deal of money is required to develop one’s talent in any of those areas. Generally only those who have money already and spend that money on themselves can develop that talent. Is that good stewardship?

It could be easy to just deny that certain things even qualify as “God-given talents.” The guitar player that leads our church band with his $1000 guitar can have talent from God, but the privileged white figure skater doesn’t count. Michaelangelo’s in, but the ballerina is out. And then what about the talents that are often scoffed at by Christians – especially emerging missional Christians? What about the fashion designer or the interior designer? Are their talent’s a gift if they feed lifestyles of greed and consumption? What about the person who is really really good at preaching? Are such skills meaningless? Or are they gifts from God?

The tension bothers me. There is the part of me that wants to affirm who people are and say that God gave them the skills to do certain things. And many of those skills can and have been used to serve God. But it is hard to reconcile how privileged one has to be in order to develop those talents. Even if one gives glory to God and blesses others with their talent are the vast amount of resources spent justified?

I have no answers, but this question returns to me every so often. I personally have spent lots of money developing who God made me to be (college comes to mind). I want to affirm developing talent, but I just can’t always justify it as good stewardship. Any thoughts?

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2007 Books

Posted on December 31, 2007July 10, 2025

If you can’t tell, I like making lists. And at the end of the calendar year list making seems to be the thing to do. I’ve been hearing a lot about the best movies of 2007, but I hardly saw any movies this year so I can’t comment in that area. But I can list the books I read this past year and comment on my favorites. And yes, this is mostly for my own personal benefit…

Faith/Spirituality/Theology/Church

Metaphorical Theology
by Sallie McFague

Everything Must Change by Brian McLaren
It’s A Dance by Patrick Oden
Inspiration and Incarnation by Peter Enns
Postcolonial Imagination and Feminist Theology by Kwok Pui-lan
Misquoting Jesus by Bart Ehrman
Graven Ideologies by Bruce Ellis Benson
Visions and Longings by Monica Furlong
Healthy Congregations by Peter Steinke
Evil and the Justice of God by N.T. Wright
An Emergent Manifesto of Hope ed. Doug Pagitt and Tony Jones
Hagar, Sarah, and their Children Edited by Phyllis Trible and Letty Russell
Sex God by Rob Bell
How (not) to Speak of God by Peter Rollins

Justice

Sex, Economy, Freedom, Community by Wendall Berry
Animal, Vegetable, Miracle by Barbara Kingsolver
Justice in the Burbs by Will and Lisa Samson
The Ethics of What We Eat by Peter Singer and Jim Mason
Urgent Message From Mother by Jean Shinoda Bolen

Memoir/Reflections

A Room of One’s Own by Virginia Woolf
The Faith Club by Ranya Idliby, Suzanne Oliver, and Priscilla Warner
Eat, Pray, Love by Elizabeth Gilbert
Dance of the Dissident Daughter by Sue Monk Kidd
Grace (Eventually) by Anne Lamott

History

Books on Fire by Lucien X. Polastron
Goddesses and the Divine Feminine by Rosemary Radford Ruether
Spirituality in the Land of the Noble by Richard C. Foltz
In Search of Zarathustra by Paul Kriwaczek
When God was a Woman by Merlin Stone
Mysteries of the Middle Ages by Thomas Cahill
Empires of the Word: A Language History of the World by Nicholas Ostler

Parenting

Beyond Discipline: From Compliance to Community by Alfie Kohn
The Homework Myth by Alfie Kohn

Fiction – General

Arcadia by Tom Stoppard

Fantasy

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter Books 1-6 by J.K. Rowling
Kushiel’s Justice by Jacqueline Carey
Belladonna by Anne Bishop
Dark Moon Defender by Sharon Shinn

Star Wars

Outbound Flight by Timothy Zahn
Allegiance by Timothy Zahn
Betrayal by Aaron Allston
Bloodlines by Karen Traviss
Tempest by Troy Denning

While I think I’ve made myself clear how much I like the Harry Potter conclusion, I must restate that it was a highlight of the year. In the category of just purely enjoyable reads, I would also have to list Empires of the Word: A Language History of the World by Nicholas Ostler. The process of tracing the history of civilization through linguistics was a new perspective for me and one I found utterly fascinating. But if I were to choose two book from this year’s list that I would recommend to just about anyone as “must reads”, I would have to say Graven Ideologies by Bruce Ellis Benson and The Ethics of What We Eat by Peter Singer and Jim Mason. Both selections I think are vital for understanding the world we live in today. Benson’s work is a brilliant introduction to the philosophical undercurrents of our time as well as a primer for a Christian understanding thereof. Singer and Mason delve into popular philosophy as well as they seek to help readers understand how ethics should inform our food choices. Both offer needed perspectives for those seeking to live a thoughtful and moral life in the 21st century. I highly recommend them both.

Anyway, I have a long and eclectic list of books on my “to read” list for 2008, I just need to find more time to actually read.

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Fourth Sunday of Advent – Joy

Posted on December 23, 2007July 10, 2025

Joy to the world

The Lord has come.

Let Earth receive her King.

I think it is easy to receive Christ as a baby. Incarnation in such a small, helpless, and cute form, although odd, isn’t very threatening. Or life altering.

For many of us it is even easy to accept Christ as a sacrificial lamb who died to take away our sins. We understand that exchange and make that event the entire focus of our faith.

But it is a lot harder to receive Christ as our King. Accepting a king implies allegiance. Not just awe or gratefulness, but fealty. It requires being willing to obey the command of this King, follow where he leads, and make his priorities our priorities. In other words receiving Christ as our King means altering our lifestyles, giving up of ourselves, and embarking on an unpredictable adventure. It can be a little scary.

So for many it may seem odd to say “joy to the world…receive your King.” It is easy to feel joy at the birth of a baby, or even when someone has paid a debt for us. It is harder to feel joy in saying that we will commit our lives to serving our King.

But this is the life we are called to as believers. A life of service which is also a life of joy. It is a paradox and mystery that isn’t easily grasped by minds trained to look out for number 1. But it is the promise to those who have faith.

So on this last Sunday of Advent as we light the candle of joy, let us remember that joy isn’t just a happy feeling but is part of the mystery of our faith that comes from serving and following our King.

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Spanking Continued…

Posted on December 21, 2007July 10, 2025

Okay perhaps I am really really stupid to create a separate post for this, but I wanted to address a few of the common objections raised in my recent post on spanking. I’ve addressed the issue in general before (here, here, and here), so here I just want to address three common rationales others give for why they spank. I started to put this in the comments, but it got too long, so it gets a post (although I may regret it). It is interesting that all the comments so far have been from the pro-spanking crowd, but this is a mostly Christian blog so that isn’t very surprising. And in case you are thinking that this is an odd topic to kick off the holiday weekend with, let me say that the first time I questioned the justness of spanking was on Christmas Day when I was around 8 or 9. My youngest brother had done something wrong and my mom went for the wooden spoon to spank him. My other brother and I were so appalled at the idea of spanking on Christmas Day, that my brother grabbed the spoon from my mom, threw it across the room and shattered it. I don’t recall what happened next, just how utterly wrong we both found spanking on Christmas to be. So here goes, my response to common rationales for spanking (on Christmas or otherwise). Enjoy or ignore as you wish.

Rationale #1 – Parents have authority over children so therefore they can hit them.

This argument is generally given to support why it is okay to hit children when it is not okay for a man to hit his wife. It would appear though that it would then only be in feminist egalitarian households where the husband isn’t assumed to have authority over the wife where such logic could be applied. If one sees the wife as being under the authority of a husband then does it become okay for him to hit her? Similarly such logic would allow masters to hit slaves (or employers to hit employees?). If one takes the Bible seriously about fathers not exasperating children, husbands and wives submitting to each other, and masters not threatening slaves but treating them fairly, the hierarchical right to hit seems a bit out of place.

Rationale #2 – Biblical passages advising parents not to “spare the rod.”

As mentioned in the thread passages like –
Proverbs 13:24: Those who spare the rod hate their children, but those who love them are careful to discipline them.
Proverbs 19:18: Discipline your children, for in that there is hope; do not be a willing party to their death.
Proverbs 22:15: Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far away.
Proverbs 23:13: Do not withhold discipline from children; if you punish them with the rod, they will not die.
Proverbs 23:14: Punish them with the rod and save them from death.

There are two responses I could give to this rationale. The first would be to question the validity of those OT passages in light of NT exhortations to love and care for others. One could quote any number of other OT passages that we question today and wonder why these ones are still followed. I mean we eat pigs, wear clothing of mixed fabric, don’t insist women marry the man who raped them, don’t stone our children (which I think the death references above refer to – discipline children so you don’t have to stone them for disobeying you, a whole different issue), and don’t encourage poor people to drown their troubles in alcohol (Proverbs 31 if you were wondering). Times change, cultures change. yadda, yadda, yadda…

Or one could question the literal interpretation of “rod” in those verses. The use of the term “rod” in those verses (preceded by the article “the”, not “a”) is the Hebrew word “shebet” which could also be translated “authority.” In many cases in the scripture the rod is used as a metaphor for authority. There are a few places when the rod referred to is literal. Shepherds carried staffs and rods (thy rod and thy staff they comfort me). The staff was used to guide sheep, but the rod was used against predators. The rod would never ever be used on the sheep – the precious livelihood of the shepherd, he guides them but does not beat them.

Then in Exodus 21:20 we are told, “If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished.” If “a rod” could kill a grown slave, why would God then promise in Proverbs 23:13 that “Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with the rod, he will not die.” The first is I think referring to physically beating a person, the second is a call to discipline with “the rod” – a metaphor for authority. Disciplining with authority does not necessarily mean hitting a person. Of course, many then say that this just means we shouldn’t hit our children with physical objects, only with our hands. I disagree, but I don’t see ability to beat a person as a symbol of authority.

But even if someone insists on a literal interpretation of rod as physical object and pushes the idea “spare the rod spoil the child” there are still other issues to deal with. BTW, that phrase is not biblical. It echoes Biblical passages but derives from a satirical epic poem by Samuel Butler called Hudibras which is about the Puritans and their separation from the king. The line originally had to do with sex (I’ll leave it up to you to figure it out). But I digress. If “shebet” is to be interpreted as a literal rod, then “na’ar” generally translated in English as child, should be literally translated as well. In Hebrew the term does not imply generic child, but males (specifically male slaves) over the age of 12 and under the age of 20. So if anyone is to be hit with a rod it should only be the males (possibly just the male slaves) over the age of 12 – the age by which even spanking advocates like Dobson say spanking should end by (he says it should start at 18 months). A consistent interpretation, would question many present spanking practices.

Rationale #3 – Spanking is effective.
I have to ask – effective at what? From what I know spanking is sometimes effective at getting children to avoid certain behaviors out of fear of getting punished if they get caught. Statistics actually show that children who are spanked are likely to misbehave more if spanking is used regularly. If raising a child who avoids doing bad things or avoids getting caught is the goal of your parenting then spanking might be called effective (to which I once again ask the pragmatists if the ends justify the means). What spanking doesn’t do is teach a child to choose to do the right thing because it is the right thing to do. Big difference there. Sure some kids gain such intrinsic motivation to be a good person in spite of spanking but not because they were spanked.

Yes, I see the need for discipline and guidance for children. I recognize the Biblical call to discipline, I just don’t think it mandates hitting. And the household codes of the NT call into question any assumptions of violence or harsh authority as well. Loving our children involves discipline, but not fear and violence. I John 4.18 “There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.”

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Changing One’s Mind

Posted on December 20, 2007July 10, 2025

I’m not a fan of mudslinging politics and get progressively tired of the candidates attempts to dig up dirt on each other. I admit that there may be a place for it in a sense. Voters should be informed and since our (and the media’s) attention spans are so short reminders of a person’s political and legal record can he helpful. But honestly I really don’t care about when Obama first wanted to be President (was it 1st or 3rd grade!!!) or if Hillary planted questions in her audience (isn’t that what politicians do???).

But one thing I read recently did surprise me. Apparently pastor and Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee isn’t allowing the public or media access to his sermons. Granted he has faced some embarrassing moments recently as public comments he made in the 90’s have resurfaced (quarantining AIDS patients and comparing environmentalism to pornography…), but it just seems weird to me that a pastor should hide his sermons. Is he embarrassed by what he preached? Has his theology changed? Is he just afraid of controversy?

One thing I’ve noticed about politics and often the church as well is the sheer aversion to admitting that one has changed one’s mind. If a politician voted one way 20 years ago, they apparently have to stick by that decision. They never say, “well, I have grown and changed as a person and I would vote differently now.” Same with pastors. Since their words are often delivered as nearly divinely inspired to recant or speak of an evolving theology is strictly taboo. I have no clue what Huckabee’s issue with his sermons is, I just wish this fear of admitting change and growth didn’t plague our politics and churches. I’d much rather have truth and transparency than backpedaling and cover-ups.

Maybe that’s just me. I have no problem admitting that my theology has changed drastically over the last ten years. Some of it has changed over the last year for that matter. I’m sure there are papers I wrote in college that I would cringe to read these days, and not just for the poor writing style (like the one for my Theology of Culture class where I named Postmodernism as the greatest threat to Christianity today…). Similarly I am sure there are archived threads on The Ooze and elsewhere that could get me labeled an official theological schizophrenic. I’m okay with that. I like to continue to learn and to grow. I don’t want to ever arrive and cement my thoughts in one static location to never be challenged again. That scares me way more than having to admit I was wrong or that I’ve changed.

But I also would never run for President.

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