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Category: Emerging Church

Missional Failure

Posted on October 20, 2007July 9, 2025

I stumbled across this funny yet challenging post by Lainie Petersen (whose blog I will be checking out now). I’m posting it here because I think it’s great, but you can find the original here.

Top Ten Ways to Fail at Being Missional

10. Be very annoyed that some people belong to religions other than your own. Express this annoyance freely.

9. Don’t bother becoming a “regular” at local businesses. Just shop/dine/get- your-clothes-drycleaned at whatever place has the best sales that week. If, by some unfortunate coincidence, you do become a regular at a local business, don’t get to know the owner, employees, or other patrons.

8. Fixate on the quality of your missional targets: Focus on the local Unitarian Universalist minister, Mormon bishop, and Wiccan high priestess (who also owns your town’s only occult bookstore). Don’t give a second thought to that rather ordinary looking lady who you see every morning on the train. She doesn’t have a large enough sphere of influence.

7. If you see a problem in your community, don’t bother to check out what other organizations or individuals are doing about it. Just start your own project: You’ll get a lot more accomplished if you are in charge!

6. Don’t waste your time reading the blogs of other missional folk. So what if they share their own struggles, hurts, joys, and ideas freely? You take all your instruction from God, directly.

5. Never, ever, check out primary source materials produced by representatives of other cultures, subcultures, and religions. Christians have already written all you need to know about those unbelievers, and besides, cult members will have a bias that you want to avoid.

4. Avoid being “unequally yoked” with unbelievers by not engaging them in conversation, learning about their families, having lunch with them, inviting them to your home (or accepting a similar invitation), or working together to address community issues of common interest.

3. Be sure to email (from your work account, while at work) your “unsaved” work colleagues (especially those that you don’t normally interact with) with regular invitations to your church and its activities.

2. Never consider offering financial or material support to other folks engaged in missional work. After all, you need all your spare cash for your own personal ministry. Besides, most of them don’t have their own 501 (c) 3 corporation, and not getting a tax deduction would be poor stewardship on your part.

1. Learn every evangelistic technique, theory, and strategy out there, and work hard to perfect your practice of them, even to the neglect of every other area of your spiritual life. What does the Holy Spirit have to do with drawing people to God, anyway?

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Blog Action Day – The Environment

Posted on October 15, 2007July 9, 2025

Today is Blog Action Day for the environment. The idea is to get bloggers all blogging about a single topic (this year the environment) to help raise awareness and funds for that issue. Part of it is to donate the proceeds from your blog that day to the cause, but I guess that would assume you get proceeds from your blog to begin with. Nevertheless, I decided to add my voice and join in.

In some ways I really don’t get why we still need to raise awareness for environmental issues. It just seems like a no-brainer – do what we can to take care of the planet. Al Gore just won the freaking Noble Peace Prize for crying out loud. But then I step back into reality. Even beyond those who think global warming is a hoax (and they are out there, in droves) and those who think it is our God-given right to destroy the environment (shockingly too many of those out there too), the bigger problem comes from those who just don’t care enough to do crap. Sure they don’t want the world destroyed, they like the idea of swimming in the ocean, and they aren’t too eager to get cancer – but none of that is motivation enough for them to change the way they live. Convenience, cheapness, and sheer laziness win out over conviction any day.

Which is why I really appreciated the call in the Emerging Church to live holistically and put our beliefs into action. Makeesha just posted a reaction to the recent Emergent Gathering in which she debunked and affirmed popular stereotypes of the emerging church. One stereotype she affirmed is the “hippie” vibe one finds at such gatherings. She writes, “all you had to do was step into the room with the food and notice the almond butter, gluten free granola, sprouted bagels, quinoa salad and organic fruit.” Our food was healthy and organic. Sure that gets us labeled “hippie” but I see in that a true commitment to the values of the Kingdom.

For many of us in the emerging church, our faith isn’t just a set of beliefs we affirm by talking endlessly about how blessed we are to have them and by singing songs about why they make us so happy. It is instead a commitment of our whole life to living in the way of Christ. And that includes the areas of how we eat, shop, and treat the environment. If we care for the poor and the oppressed we are not going to buy food from systems that keep them in poverty or that expose them to unhealthy working conditions. If we care for God’s creation we are not going to buy food that dumps poisons into the environment or is unsustainably grown. If we care for our bodies (as temples of the Holy Spirit) we aren’t going to fill them with chemicals and high fructose corn syrup. Living holistically as followers of Christ changes that.

So call me a hippie. Call me a freak. Call me emergent. I am just trying to follow Christ.

And yes that means I care about the environment.

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Podcast

Posted on October 14, 2007July 9, 2025

If anyone is interested, I am on the latest Nick & Josh Podcast. I haven’t listened to the finished version yet, but I think (hope) I was vaguely coherent for it. I talk mostly about Emerging Women and some of the issues women face in entering into the whole emerging church conversation. I’m sure I ramble on at points, but I had fun doing it. So thanks guys for the opportunity.

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Emergent Gathering Reflections

Posted on October 9, 2007July 9, 2025
That’s where I was all last week – at the Lifeway Glorieta Conference Center situated in the mountains outside of Santa Fe. As strange as it is to attend an Emergent event at a Southern Baptist camp, it does make for a stunning setting. Emma enjoying pointing out the “real mountains” (a opposed to the sand mountains we climbed in Michigan). In all she had a wonderful time there which is a good thing since we were really unsure how doing this event as a family would work. This Gathering was the first Emergent event that I have done in “mommy mode” which of course created a new dynamic for me, but I discovered that it is actually doable. Having Emma there meant we both took a very relaxed approach to the event. There was no possibility of us making every workshop or late night option, so we just stepped back and enjoyed the community where we could. So instead of stressing out about being places and becoming overwhelmed with information, we ended up having fantastic conversations wherever we were at. Playing with kids at the playground or letting Emma collect rocks on the hill were all opportunities to connect with people. And I loved that most conversations jumped straight to deeper issues and richer topics. I think everyone there was desperate for a community, a tribe as some are calling it, where those conversations are possible and so we took advantage of them at every moment.

A few random highlights from the week for me –

    • – Like I mentioned before, attending a discussion of holistic emerging parenting. I am drawn to alternative parenting ideas and generally don’t hold to the typical American style of parenting, but I’ve had a very hard time finding people to discuss those ideas with, much less learn from their experiences. The few I’ve found have not been involved in Christianity. So I’ve longed for other Christians to talk to who share my emerging journey and are exploring more holistic parenting ideas. Ideas that wrestle with spiritual formation of children outside of the assumed model of Sunday School or AWANA. Parents that see their children as people to be respected instead of pawns to be controlled. Parents who don’t hit or scream at their children on principle (and definitely don’t justify such things with the Bible). It was very refreshing to be in a group that cared about such things (men and women equally btw). We only had a short time at the Gathering to discuss such ideas, but I am in the process of creating an Emerging Parents blog to help continue that discussion.

    • – Hosting an Emerging women lunch where we got to hear each other’s stories. Women are coming to this emerging discussion from such a wide variety of backgrounds and it is helpful to hear about those journeys. We heard the stories of pain, of questioning, of anger, and of hope. As always those discussions developed into longer conversations about the whole “women in Emergent” issue. I’ll post more about those over at the Emerging Women blog later this week.
    • – Being involved in discussions about the future of Emergent Village and the role it will play. Will it be a place for newcomers to come with their pain and questions to work through new ideas or will it be pushing forward in developing practice and theology in our postmodern world? Mike has blogged about this issue here.
    • – Finally figuring out who/what The Cobalt Season is and realizing that their music is amazing (go buy their CD’s right now). And it was also amusing to discover the um, interesting, relationship Ryan Sharp has to my brother…

    • – Taking Emma into Santa Fe and trying to teach her how to walk the labyrinth at the Cathedral. She made it through one circuit and the said “I just run,” and ran to the middle. There’s got to be some spiritual analogy in there somewhere…
    • – Hanging out with friends new and old. Finally meeting some online faces. And knowing that yes, there are people in this whole emerging community that I really can connect with and wishing we weren’t scattered across the country.
  • – New Mexican food. Enough said.

And if you want to see some really good pictures from the Gathering click here.

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Emergent Gathering

Posted on October 3, 2007July 9, 2025

Hi all. I’m in New Mexico at the Emergent Gathering having a fantastic time. I just went to a discussion on emerging holistic parenting which is something I’ve longed to discuss with other like-minded Christians for awhile now. So it was good. I’ll post details when I get back. But the blog will be slow the next few days as I have fun.

 

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The Kingdom vs. Utopia

Posted on September 30, 2007July 9, 2025

Does believing in the mission that Christ gave us imply that one has liberal Utopian leanings or progressive delusions of grandeur? It’s a question that I seem to encounter quite often these days. Generally the argument proceeds something like – all you emergent types are too tied to progressive liberal politics so therefore you think the government will save you and usher us into a perfect Utopian future (which is really a modern conception of progress anyway…). Or something similar along those lines. This is generally followed by some sermon on how we as Christians a should not corrupt ourselves (or the gospel) by getting involved in politics. Or at least about how we should only focus on trying to help those we have a personal relationship with – in our local community.

Don’t get me wrong – I don’t think the government can save us or bring about a perfect world. No one political party has all the answers or will automatically make this world a better place. But I don’t think that is reason to just abandon politics or give up altogether. And (as I’ve mentioned before) I don’t think working to bring God’s Kingdom “on earth as it is in heaven” can just be written off as the modern myth of progress either.

To take to heart Jesus’ command to “go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you” – would imply that one actually believes that it can be done. If we are following in the way of Christ, living out the Kingdom values, and teaching others about the things Jesus taught then part of the idea is that we are attempting to make this world a better place. If we follow in Jesus’ footsteps to “preach good news to the poor, to proclaim freedom for the prisoners, and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor” then we should be actively working for those things believing that God has the power to make them happen. So in seeking to feed the hungry, to heal those with AIDS, to stop sexual exploitation of children, and to end slave like conditions in the factories we are not just buying into liberal ideas of progress through science, we are following Christ’s commands.

But apparently to think that any of that will actually work is wishful Utopian thinking. And to think that the government or technology might assist in bringing those things about is to place our faith for salvation in such organizations. At least, so I have heard. But I’m not buying it.

The world is broken – God’s kingdom is not on earth as it is in heaven. And often it has been the very people who claim to follow Christ that have caused the brokenness. If there is something that can be done to bring healing and reconciliation to the World, is it not a good thing to do it? And if a big organization or a government (many of whom caused the problems to begin with) are in a position to help heal the ills of the world, why the hell would I not support that? Even Jesus when the disciples reported that they had seen a man driving out demons in his name said, “Do not stop him, for whoever is not against you is for you.”

I don’t think the government will save us or that they have all the answers. I don’t think that the world will just get better and better because of the wonders of technology. I am not deluded into thinking that Utopia will just appear if enough people vote a certain way and start recycling. But I do believe in Jesus and the mission he has called us to. I do believe that as Christians we are expected to care for others and to stop the injustices in this world. And I have no problem using the government or technology to help make that happen if that is what it takes. The mission is bigger than the fear of being consumed by an secular agenda of progress. And if working to make Kingdom values a reality gets dismissed as an Utopian delusion, I really don’t care. I’ll just keep on following Jesus.

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Up/Rooted Panel Discussion – Megachurches

Posted on September 24, 2007July 9, 2025

In my continuing comments on the recent Up/Rooted panel discussion on the topic “the emerging church critique of evangelicalism” with Scot McKnight, Wayne Johnson, and David Fitch…

The last question of the evening involved if typical evangelical seeker style services (complete with the rock show and other celebratory gimmicks) are worthwhile if they manage to reach people. i.e. As emergents (or mainliners, or fundamentalists) we may criticize such services as lacking in depth, devoid of true worship, and for promoting an individualistic and consumeristic view of the church, but if they are what people need at that point in their life does that make them worthwhile? I think that is a good question that needs to be addressed, unfortunately the panelist ignored it and dove straight into an all out fight about megachurches. Seriously. Okay maybe “intense discussion of varying viewpoints” is the better way to describe it, but as “fights” go, this one was pretty good. It wasn’t mean spirited and it was carried by humor throughout. It mostly involved Scot McKnight (who attends the megachurch of megachurches – Willow Creek) vs. David Fitch (who wrote an anti-megachurch book and recent blog post). Fun times.

Scot defended megachurches by saying that there is nothing a small church can offer that a megachurch doesn’t offer. He dislikes it when people criticize churches like Willow when they have never actually attended the church. They don’t know the church, they don’t know the people there. They are just reacting to stereotypes they have heard. He also praised the potential anonymity at a megachurch. People can show up and not be known – they aren’t pressured to “do”, they aren’t judged, and they aren’t automatically labelled as a “visitor” (the ultimate church Other). Scot explained, “at Willow there is a permeable boundary between who is in or out.” It is one of the few evangelical churches where gays and lesbians can attend without being ostracized or forced to immediately give up their “gayness” (whatever that means). It is in other words, a safe introduction to Christianity.

But my question is – is it really church if we can’t be the body together? Can we really exist as strangers to each other and still claim to be a community? Is the desire to be unknown and unconnected a good thing? I personally think that the boundaries of all churches should be more permeable. I’ve attended churches where it was very clear who was in and who was out. Those who didn’t fit in immediately (the occasional homosexual who might wander in) were given a very specific amount of time to repent and change who they are or else they were kicked out of the church. That is not church either imho. Places like that are what create the need for anonymity in the megachurches. People want a chance to discover what they believe before they identify themselves with a particular group in all of its religious weirdness. But can’t the church offer people a place where they have the freedom to explore (at their own pace) and be accepted into the community? Are we really that incapable of loving people that to be lost in a crowd is preferable to joining a community? I personally don’t think that being alone and unknown is a good thing no matter what circumstances forced it to be necessary.

I know that Willow does great things. And I know that there are many small churches where true community is non-existent. I’m just hoping for a better way.

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Up/Rooted Panel Discussion – Emergent Freedom to Question

Posted on September 22, 2007July 9, 2025

At the up/rooted panel discussion the other night Scot McKnight spoke on the questions that are important to people in the emerging church. These are questions that were (still are) taboo in the evangelical church but which shape the faith journey of emergents. The point isn’t so much the answers they land on, but that they feel like they can wrestle with (as opposed to suppress) these questions. Scot listed six main issues of discussion (and yes, this is a horrible paraphrase)-

    1. Scripture & Inerrancy. e.g. Can Genesis contain mythic elements?

 

    1. Science & Evolution. Instead of giving up the faith when finally exposed to science, can we actually be believers in light of science?

 

    1. Hypocrisy. Can Christians be genuinely consistent?

 

    1. Hell. Where did our views of hell even come from?

 

    1. God. Do we really believe everything the Bible says about God?

 

  1. Social location. Are most of us Christians because of the happenstance of where we were born?

When issues such as these are seen as beyond the realm of discussion, it forces believers to generally either deny their intellect or walk away from the faith. The emerging church gives people the freedom to ask the honest and hard questions about these things. Instead of being told that “good Christians” don’t question the evangelical assumptions about hell or inerrancy, it has become almost the mark of a growing Christian in the EC that you explore those issues for yourself. Of course, I’ve learned from experience that taking advantage of that freedom to question is not looked upon favorably in many circles. For many just asking a question and thinking for oneself get one labeled as a heretic and results in a quick dismissal from one’s job.

But, I think Scot’s list is accurate in the issues he sees as central to the emerging conversation. The list could in many ways be the summation of my faith journey this past decade. Those were the question I wrestled with and am still exploring. I’m sure I’ve gone in different directions than some in the EC, but I’ve found resonance and a theological home with others. The only big thing I would add to the list is the whole gender question (women in ministry, gender roles…). That is really the issue that sent me down this road to begin with and has remained a central part of my experience of the emerging world. From what I have heard it is also the entry point for others (mostly women) into this conversation as well. I guess I could fit it under one of Scot’s categories (scripture, God) and I know that it isn’t as taboo of a topic in evangelical churches as others on the list, but I still see it as a vital and in many ways separate category.

What do others think? Are these categories accurate? What would you add?

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Up/Rooted Panel Discussion – Authenticity and Worship

Posted on September 21, 2007July 9, 2025

Last night the Chicago Emergent cohort, Up/Rooted, hosted a panel discussion on the topic “the emerging church critique of evangelicalism.” On the panel were Scot McKnight, Wayne Johnson, and David Fitch. The entire evening’s discussion should eventually be available as a podcast and I’m sure someone with more patience than I will post a nice summary somewhere. (update – sorry no forthcoming podcast, something about it not recording and there is a decent summary here) For now, I will point you to Dave Fitch’s blog where he posted a few of the ideas he covered last night. Scot also hinted that he will be blogging about the ideas he presented as well. Needless to say it was a stimulating discussion that did a fairly decent job of summing up most of the emerging critiques of evangelicalism. But of course the conversation didn’t stop there as the presenters worked in their critiques of emerging/emergent as well.

I heard a lot I liked last night, a number of things I disagreed with, and a few things I didn’t understand. I of course didn’t ask any questions there, because, well, I hate asking questions in that sort of setting. One can’t engage in real dialogue and the question generally gets misunderstood anyway (as evidents by the “let’s see who can ask the most convoluted and confused question” game the audience seemed to be playing last night). But given the joyous freedoms on the blogworld, I can post my thoughts, disagreements and questions here and, in good emerging/postmodern fashion, engage with dialogue with anyone who is so inclined. So I’ll try to post my random thoughts on this panel discussion here over the next week or so. That said, let’s jump right in and talk about…

Worship. In his initial presentation on the emerging critique of evangelicalism, Wayne Johnson focused on the aspect of worship. While he thought that the EC has done a good job in it’s critique of consumer, seeker driven worship, he also pointed out a few weaknesses in the EC in regards to worship. In setting up his discussion on worship, he defined the concept of worship as “our response to God’s revelation in the world” (not a direct quote, but close I think). I like that definition, but not his subsequent assertion that primary forms of worship should then be the Word and the Table. Sure those are important aspects of God’s revelation, but the God I worship is a lot bigger than just those two things. But I digress… What I really had issue with in his talk was his critique of the emerging emphasis on authenticity.

I know that “authentic” has become a buzz word in the EC and I fully agree that that which is trendy often has no real substance or meaning. And I fully agree that to push one idea of what it means to be authentic (informal, organic…) onto a person who is not those things to begin with kinda misses the point of authenticity. I get that. But then Dr. Johnson claimed that to be authentic is to promote an individualism that hinders the communal act of the body of Christ entering into corporate worship. If we so fine-tune our services into that which is an “authentic” worship experience for us, we run the risk of heightening ethnic, cultural, and generational divisions. We care too much about ourselves and not enough for others.

Don’t get me wrong, I am all for diverse churches and I think our self centered myopic worship wars have caused more harm than good in the church; but, I’m not ready to throw out the concept of “authentic.” If authentic is defined as that which is “true, real, and genuine,” would not the opposite be that which is “false or a lie”? In emerging critiques of evangelical worship (and in evangelical critiques of traditional worship for that matter) there has been a lot of talk about “just going through the motions.” In other words, participating in a false and meaningless form of worship – lying to God. I don’t think anyone wants to promote lying in one’s response to God as a good thing, but the question arises of if lying to God is justified if it helps build community. Is it okay to be inauthentic and false in how one responds to God if it helps build up a diverse body of Christ?

I honestly have no idea if that is at all what Dr. Johnson was intending with his thoughts, but it is what immediately popped into my mind. Does serving others involve making weighted moral choices like that or am I way off base here? Maybe I’m just too seeped in the evangelical definition of sin as personal choice as opposed to a wider more emerging view that involves the community as a whole. Maybe I just really have an issue with the whole concept of the submission of my will to that of other people. But I can’t bring myself to say that it is okay to engage in false acts of worship solely for the good of the community. I see no problem with remaining silent and not making a scene about it if one can’t participate, but I can’t justify engaging. But maybe that’s just me. What are your thoughts? What’s your take on this whole issue of authenticity and worship?

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Missional and Seekers

Posted on September 19, 2007July 9, 2025

Bob Roberts of Glocalnet recently put up a post about “being missional in the Sunday service” (ht – Rick Meigs). He had some good suggestions about being missional within the cultural trappings of the Sunday service. Like – if your worship consists of singing songs, it would help if those songs focused on service instead of just being another “me” centered melody (which is way easier said than done since songs like that are limited). But I was a bit uneasy with his opening assertions about being missional and seeker sensitive. He writes –

Can you reach seekers and be missional? Yes. Reaching seekers is missional! The challenge is how do you communicate to seekers, change their perceptions of God and church, help them find Jesus, and then help them understand we’ve been called to community to together live out the Kingdom.

I see all of the things he listed as good things, it is the order that he presents them in that bugs me. First you give them the messages about Jesus, God, and church and then you get them on board with being missional. It might just be me, but that smacks of the whole bait and switch technique that so many of us so desperately try to avoid. If the point is to follow Christ then call people to follow Christ from the get go. Don’t woo them with spiffy seeker services and then expect them to catch the missional mindset. It’s that old saying – “what you call people with is what you call them to”. Calling people to enjoy a service and get committed to the church before you expect them to actually serve God can lead to disastrous results. In our “me? centered culture that sees church as a place to come, sit, mingle, be entertained, and possibly fed, to get people into your church for those things and then ask them to serve doesn’t work. They either ignore the call to get up off their butts, or they find another church that doesn’t make such “extreme” demands on their life.

But that can be a problem for churches. I’ve known churches where the people have left in droves after the church leadership started pursuing a more missional route. Our tiny little church plant continues to struggle with this as well. We don’t want to present people with one conception of church and then push another agenda down the road. We try to be upfront about who we are and that scares people. They don’t want to have to engage with the sermon, they don’t want to have to give their time to missional events. It’s too far out of their comfort zone. But it is who we are. We recently had a booth at our town’s annual Hometown Days. We debated what to do with the booth (do we give away water or popcorn, what about free games for kids?). We eventually decided against the attractional gimmicks and instead sold fairly traded goods for Ten Thousand Villages – it sparked some good conversations about who we are as a church. What was amusing was that the new church plant in town went for all those attractional give aways (water bottles, candy, free games, ipods…). What you call them with is what you call them to – but somedays it seems like there are a lot more people out there interested in passive “gimme” styles of church than there are interested in missional churches.

That said, I also think that calling people to be missional does not come after the call to be a Christian, but is part of the call itself. In fact people can be serving God and helping others even if they are not onboard with the whole faith thing. Inviting people to engage with doing the work of Christ is part of calling them to Christ. We invite anyone to help out with our missional projects at church – even if they are not part of our church or any church at all for that matter. They are welcome to be the hands and feet of Christ even before they believe in Christ. And the interesting part is that action of serving and following Christ often makes them actually want to well, follow Christ. So being missional vs. being seeker sensitive doesn’t follow in my book. It’s about following Christ and that means being missional always.

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