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On Narnia Turning 75

Posted on October 16, 2025

Map of NarniaOctober 16th. Today marks the 75th anniversary of the publication of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe the first book C.S. Lewis published in The Chronicles of Narnia.

It is somewhat hard to wrap my mind around, although Narnia has been with me my whole life. My parents hung this map of Narnia in my nursery, and it now hangs outside my office door. Some of my fondest memories are of my dad reading the books aloud to me. Those books were my introduction to fantasy, and for most of my childhood the only speculative fiction I was allowed to read. I know many people who shun the Narnia books these days because of their Christian allegory, understandably wanting nothing to do with a group that has hurt and oppressed so many people.

But I can’t let go of them, they are too rooted in what shaped me as a person. And in all honesty a good part of what radicalized me.

Some fifteen years ago, I wrote this in a post on this blog –

So many of the movies and books targeted to children are about boys and their adventures (with the occasional girl sidekick). If there is a widely popular story of a girl going on an adventure it almost always takes place in a fantasy world. Lucy steps through the wardrobe into Narnia, Alice falls down the rabbit-hole into Wonderland, Dorothy is whisked away in a twister to Oz, Meg travels along the tesseract. Apparently little girls doing strong things like adventures can’t happen in real life, so they must be told in the realm of fantasy. (all those character’s mental stability is questioned when they return to the real world as well). Women having a voice and strength and power is a safe topic if it is contained by fantasy.

Narnia posterAt the time I was writing about accepting the voices of the other, but what struck me when I reread that recently was that each of those stories I mentioned of girls going on adventures in fantasy realms involved that girl standing up to an authoritarian tyrant. Lucy fights the White Witch and ends the endless winter, Alice uses wit and reason to defeat the rage and fury of the Queen of Hearts, Dorothy reveals the Wizard to be a fraud, and Meg rescues her brother and father from It and the encroaching darkness. None of them saw themselves as warriors and they all were frightened in the moment, but it was only because of the unlikeliest of heroes standing against cruelty and oppression that good was able to win in the end.

Those were the tales that shaped my childhood. That showed that even when it seems like one is up against impossible odds and that evil and tyranny will win, even a frightened little girl who happened to stumble into the middle of the fight has the ability return good to the world. If that doesn’t radicalize someone, I don’t know what can.

In the dedication to The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe Lewis wrote to his goddaughter Lucy that by the time the book was published she might be past the age of enjoying children’s books, but that “some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again.” In this age of encroaching tyranny and authoritarianism, I think we could all heed that reminder. These stories of unlikely heroes can give us hope, but they can also remind us that bullies, dictators, and oppressors are to be stood up to. The role of the hero is not to join the side of evil no matter how much Turkish Delight is promised; the role of the hero is to stand of the side of love and compassion and ensure that such goodness is preserved in the world. We need to read these fantasy and fairy tale stories because all too often in the real world those that stand against tyranny are dismissed as crazy like Lucy, Alice, Dorothy, and Meg were. It is often only in fantasy realms that the stories of good prevailing against evil are allowed to be told. They may be told as fantasy, but they are still truth. For as Chesterton wrote(ish) – “Fairy tales are more than true: not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.”

I am forever grateful to C.S. Lewis and The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe for shaping me with this core belief as a child – radicalizing me for the side of good. Reflecting of the book on this 75th anniversary is helping me to remember that dragons can be beaten, Aslan is on the move, and winter’s reign can end.

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Way to Water: A Theopoetics Primer

Posted on February 26, 2015July 12, 2025

A few years ago I signed up for a class in seminary on theopoetics. I had absolutely no idea what that word meant, but it sounded fascinating. During my time in that course, I felt that I was finally discovering my theological home. The ways of conceiving of the Divine and experiencing the world with equal measures of both uncertainty and hope that come from a theopoetic sensibility resonated with me. Yes, labels can be superfluous, but in theopoetics I found a name for a way of participating, reflecting, and exploring faith that was life affirming.

Yet, theopoetics is little known in the faith world that all too often clings to dogmatic systems and traditions in order to preserve the status quos of theology, church hierarchy, and worship practices. And while the theopoetic is an idea best lived in practice, grasping what it embodies is a helpful necessity for those who spend their time thinking about the ways faith looks in our world. To that end, I was very excited to be offered free for review purposes from Wipf & Stock a copy of Callid Keefe-Perry’s new book, Way to Water: A Theopoetics Primer.

Callid has probably done more than anyone to spread awareness of theopoetics and to spark both academic and practical discussions about what it encompasses. His book serves as a resource providing a brief yet thorough introduction to theopoetics. He provides an academic overview of the history of theopoetics and offers a summary of the main thinkers and writers in the movement. He then turns to an exploration of what an integration of theopoetics in worship, sermons, pastoral care, and church outreach might look like. Then, after acknowledging the fault in talking about theopoetics instead of doing theopoetics, he concludes the book with a series of meditations that express the idea of theopoetics through story and metaphor. This offering is a valuable resource that I hope will help expand the conversation about theopoetics and allow it to integrate more into our everyday approaches to and conceptions of faith.

At the core of theopoetics is the idea that how we articulate our experiences of the Divine can alter our experience of the Divine. While provocative in the idea that we in some way make God (theo=God, poesis=making), theopoetics simply acknowledges the common sense idea that how we choose to encounter things determines what things we encounter. It is a given that we can never speak with certainty about God (to know God with absolute certainty would make us God). But instead of assuming that uncertainty and doubt destroy faith, theopoetics embraces the uncertainty of how we speak of and understand God never being sufficient, and suggests why we might still talk about God anyway. As Callid writes, the defining mark of theopoetics is “an acceptance of a cognitive uncertainty regarding the Divine, an unwillingness to attempt to unduly banish that uncertainty, and an emphasis on action and creative articulation in spite of it all” (111).

Theopoetics instead opens space to discover the myriad of ways God might be encountered and felt in the world, even if that encounter is simply with the rumor or hope of the Divine. It is not a rejection of all that has come before, but does insist that “God is not so insignificant as to be invisible except in that which has come before” (7). Even beyond opening up the avenues in which we accept that the Divine can be encountered, theopoetics clears space for perspectives that have been ignored in the past. As Callid comments, while “formalized and institutionally centered doctrinal certainty tends to support status quo systems of social power, and thus, to the extent that current systems and structures appear to be in collusion with unjust forces, attempts at challenging the mode of discourse might allow for the encouragement of voices that might not otherwise be given space” (117) Theopoetics is not a new theology or a mere application of the poetic to theology, it is an invitation to encounter the vast array of metaphorical, incarnational, and experiential aspects of faith. It is an engage with the embodied world and the possibilities it holds.

Where I most resonate with theopoetics as a movement is in the ways in which it creates space to hear our truths spoken to us in our everyday lives. From the beauty of the world, to the pain of illness, to the stories of our favorite films and books, to the rich conversations we hold as we break bread and drink wine with friends—we are surrounded with theopoetic articulations of the Divine. There is no sacred secular divide here, nor an outdated mind body dualism. All is accepted as icon that draws us in, engages us, and transforms us. To be the church is to encounter these stories, name continually anew the ways the divine is moving in the world, and be moved to action to love, serve, and realize the potential of all.

Our stories, our bodies, our conversations, our pains are charged with meaning. Theopoetics grants us space to find the Divine already there.

To read other reviews and reflections on Way to Water: A Theopoetics Primer click here.

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2013 Books

Posted on December 30, 2013July 12, 2025

So 2013 has been quite a year. I’m sure I could write any number of retrospectives that would be meaningful to no one but me. But as I do every year, I thought I’d post the list of books I read in the past year. It as much as anything is a record of where I have been and what has been shaping me. It always fascinates me to hear what others are reading as I see that as one of the biggest insights into who they are, so this is a slice of me from this past year. Feel free to comment of the list or make suggestions for what I should read next year!

Non-fiction

  •  Silence: A Chistian History by Diarmaid MacCulloch
  •  The Uses of Enchantment: The Meaning and Importance of Fairy Tales by Bruno Bettelheim
  •  Notes from a Blue Bike: The Art of Living Intentionally in a Chaotic World by Tsh Oxenreider
  •  The Insistence of God: A Theology of Perhaps by John Caputo
  • After Magic: Moves Beyond Super-Nature by Kester Brewin
  •  Killing Monsters: Why Children Need Fantasy, Super Heroes, and Make-Believe Violence by Gerard Jones
  •  Bright Not Broken: Gifted Kids, ADHD, and Autism by Diane M. Kennedy and Rebecca S. Banks
  •  Faith in History and Society: Toward a Practical Fundamental Theology by Johann Baptist Metz
  •  Eros Toward the World: Paul Tillich and the Theology of the Erotic by Alexander Irwin
  •  God, Desire, and a Theology of Human Sexuality by David Jensen
  •  The Future of Faith by Harvey Cox
  •  The Terror Dream: Fear and Fantasy in Post-9/11 America by Susan Faludi
  •  9.11.01: African American Leaders Respond to an American Tragedy edited by Martha J. Simmons and Frank A. Thomas
  •  New Feminist Christianity: Many Voices, Many Views edited by Mary E. Hunt and Diann L. Neu
  •  Toward a Theology of Eros: Transfiguring Passion at the Limits of Discipline edited by Virginia Burns and Catherine Keller
  •  Proverbs of Ashes: Violence, Redemptive Suffering and the Search for What Saves Us by Rita Nakashima Brock and Rebecca Ann Parker
  •  Radical Theology and the Death of God by Thomas J.J. Altizer and William Hamilton
  •  Hermione Granger Saves the World: Essays on the Feminist Heroine of Hogwarts edited by Christopher Bell
  •  The Heretical Imperative: Contemporary Possibilities of Religious Affirmation by Peter Berger
  •  God’s Democracy: American Religion after September 11 by Emilio Gentile
  • Touching Our Strength: The Erotic as Power and the Love of God by Carter Heyward
  •  Introducing Body Theology by Lisa Isherwood and Elizabeth Stuart
  •  The God Who May Be: A Hermeneutics of Religion by Richard Kearney
  •  On Paul Ricoeur: The Owl of Minerva by Richard Kearney
  •  Holy Terrors: Thinking about Religion after September 11 by Bruce Lincoln
  •  Images of Hope: Imagination as Healer of the Hopeless by William Lynch
  •  Origins of the Theology of Hope by Douglas Meeks
  •  The Solidarity of Others in a Divided World: A Postmodern Theology after Postmodernism by Anselm Kyongsuk Min
  •  In the End—The Beginning: The Life of Hope by Jurgen Moltmann
  •  The Spirit of Life: A Universal Affirmation by Jurgen Moltmann
  •  Body Theology by James B. Nelson
  •  Making Gender: The Politics and Erotics of Culture by Sherry B. Ortner
  •  Sexism and God-Talk: Toward a Feminist Theology by Rosemary Radford Ruether
  •  Terrorism TV: Popular Entertainment in Post-9/11 America by Stacy Takacs
  •  Toward a New Christianity: Readings in the Death of God Theology Edited by Thomas J.J. Altizer
  •  Love, Power, and Justice: Ontological Analyses and Ethical Applications by Paul Tillich
  •  Liberty, Equality, Sisterhood: On the Emancipation of Women in Church and Society by Elisabeth Moltmann-Wendel
  •  Journeys by Heart: A Christology of Erotic Power by Rita Brock

Fiction

  •  Royal Airs by Sharon Shinn
  •  Autumn Bones: Agent of Hel by Jacqueline Carey
  •  Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein
  •  Allegiant by Veronica Roth
  • The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones by Cassandra Clare
  •  The Mortal Instruments: City of Ashes by Cassandra Clare
  • The Mortal Instruments: City of Glass by Cassandra Clare
  •  The Mortal Instruments: City of Fallen Angels by Cassandra Clare
  •  The Mortal Instruments: City of Lost Souls by Cassandra Clare
  •  The Infernal Devices: Clockwork Angel by Cassandra Clare
  •  The Infernal Devices: Clockwork Prince by Cassandra Clare
  •  The Infernal Devices: Clockwork Princess by Cassandra Clare
  •  Shadow of Night by Deborah Harkness
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Prayer, Spells, and God, Perhaps

Posted on October 1, 2013July 12, 2025

This post is part of a blog tour around John Caputo’s latest book – The Insistence of God: A Theology of Perhaps. My post engages Chapter 2 “The Insistence of God.” I was sent a review copy of the book as part of participating in this blog tour.

For the last few years, my favorite description of the work of theology has been Catherine Keller’s evocative “incantations on the edge of uncertainty.” For unlike the strong theologies of ages past that all too often mirrored the monarchical power structures of their day, I am drawn to the idea of theology as the process of responding as best one can into the uncertainty of the world, not knowing if one’s response will serve on the side of good or ill, but nevertheless responding anyway.

It is for theologians of this new sort that John Caputo calls for in his most recent work, The Insistence of God. Theologians of the future, theologians of risk. Those who are willing to “stage a coup that steals the word ‘theology’ out from under the nose of the palace theologians” and who are “a curse and affliction to the patriarchal and homophobic power of the powers that be but a blessing to the people of God.” Theologians who ask what theology looks like when it is written by “the outlaws, the outliers, the out of power, the troublemakers, the poor, the rogues.” Theologians who realize what a dangerous act it is to recite incantations that call upon the name of God – who know what a perilous act it is to pray.

As Caputo argues, to pray is to encounter the projectile that is God. It doesn’t matter so much that God exists, but that God (or the idea of God) insists – that the call of God insists that we respond and come to divine aid. This is a call to respond in hope that, maybe, just perhaps, a better world is possible. Prayer is not our projection onto a God of our needs, but an exposure to trauma that is the tumultuous call of God that attacks our narcissism and pushes us outside of ourselves. God, as Caputo writes, is a problem that won’t go away, that is constantly stirring up trouble and leaving us to deal with it. We might, perhaps, respond to this call and set things on a different course “for better or worse.” Therein lies the peril. To pray, to respond to God, is to risk this new course, hoping that perhaps it is for the better and not worse.

For God to be alive in this world means that the people of God encounter the insistence of God and respond with action. If this call goes unheard, elicits no response, then God is indeed dead and we have killed him. The call of God therefore is a continually posed question that we may perchance answer or resist. There is no God at work in the world without us.

Perhaps Caputo’s presentation of prayer as this sort of incantation on the edge of uncertainty can be best understood through the illustration of one of the most famous literary incantations of our time. In J.K. Rowling’s book Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, she introduced the Latin-ish spell “Expecto Patronum.” Loosely translated, it means “I await a patron or protector.” The spell is used to produce a “patronus” that fends off the Dementors – creatures that suck all that is good out of you and make you feel like you will never be happy again. At one point, Harry Potter is about to be destroyed by the Dementors when a powerful patronus appears to save him. He believes that the patronus was cast (inexplicably) by his dead father, come back to protect and save him. He later, through an act of time-travel, realizes that it is not his father, but he himself who casts the patronus. He almost let the Dementors win waiting around for his father to appear to save him before he realized that he was his own protector. To incant the words “Expecto Patronum” is to be drawn out of oneself into the realization that only by choosing to respond oneself can there be any chance that one might be saved.

This is the trauma of prayer as Caputo describes it. He argues that what we need are theologians willing to risk it all through such responses. Those who pray with “eyes wide open,” hoping against hope for what may come even though we (nor God) know not what it may be. To always ask the question that has no known answer and yet risk asking it anyway.

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2012 Books

Posted on January 8, 2013July 12, 2025

Usually at the end of the year I post a list of the books I read that year. I’m a tad late this year, but this is mostly for my own benefit anyway. But it’s always fun to post the list and see if others have read the same books or have suggestions that this list might spark.

As for favorites, I very much enjoyed diving into books on Theopoetics and Social Trinitarianism. Both were topics I needed to research for writing projects and the ideas have captured my imagination. Those approaches to theology (which overlap quite a bit) make sense to me and will be frameworks I will be returning to. As for the fiction I read my favorite this year was Deborah Harkness’ A Discovery of Witches. It is one of those books that so thoroughly draws you into its narrative that it takes a moment to reorient yourself to reality once you look up from its pages. Maybe it’s because her career started as an academic or because it is her first novel (and firsts are always the most well written, but obvious reasons), but it was one of the most well-written works of popular fiction I have read in a long time. I am currently devouring its sequel and eagerly await the announcement of the third book’s publication date. For similar (but opposite) reasons, I wouldn’t recommend the Hendees’ Noble Dead series. The first two books were okay for that genre (fantasy/vampire hunter), but obviously once they got the contract for the multiple book series the writing quality plummeted. I know that writers once they are expected to pump out that book a year don’t have the time to construct as engaging of a novel as they did to first catch an agents’s/publisher’s eye, but sometimes it is just far too obviously bad.

But enough complaining, here’s the list. I would love to hear your thoughts and recommendations!

Non-fiction

  •  The Poetics of Imagining by Richard Kearney
  •  Theopoetic by Amos Wilder
  •  Longing for Running Water: Ecofeminism and Liberation by Ivone Gebara
  •  Standing by Words: Essays by Wendell Berry
  •  Poetic Theology: God and the Poetics of Everyday Life by William Dyrness
  •  On the Mystery: Discerning Divinity in Process by Catherine Keller
  •  The Weakness of God: A Theology of the Event by John Caputo
  •  After the Death of God by John Caputo and Gianni Vattimo
  •  Anatheism: Returning to God After God by Richard Kearney
  •  The Way of Transfiguration: Religious Imagination As Theopoiesis by Stanley Hopper
  •  The Social God and the Relational Self: A Trinitarian Theology of the Imago Dei by Stanley Grenz
  •  God for Us: The Trinity & Christian Life by Catherine Mowry LaCugna
  •  After Our Likeness: The Church as the Image of the Trinity by Miroslav Volf
  •  The Quotidian Mysteries: Laundry, Liturgy and “Women’s Work” by Kathleen Norris
  •  Hearing and Knowing: Theological Reflections on Christianity in Africa by Mercy Amba Oduyoye
  •  Aspergirls: Empowering Females with Asperger Syndrome by Rudy Simone
  •  Ethics of Hope by Jurgen Moltmann
  •  The Trinity and the Kingdom by Jurgen Moltman
  •  Writing in the Dust: After September 11 by Rowan Williams
  •  Wealth as Peril and Obligation: The New Testament on Possessions by Sondra Wheeler
  •  Fear and Trembling by Soren Kierkegaard
  •  Adam and Eve: Jewish, Christian, and Muslim Readings on Genesis and Gender Ed. Kristen Kvam
  •  Heaven and Hell in Narrative Perspective by Andrew Perriman
  •  Spiritual Landscapes: Images of the Spiritual Life in the Gospel of Luke by James Resseguie
  •  The Wisdom of Stability: Rooting Faith in a Mobile Culture by Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove
  •  Process Theology: A Guide for the Perplexed by Bruce Epperly
  •  Making a Way Out of No Way: A Womanist Theology by Monica Coleman
  •  Unladylike: Resisting the Injustice of Inequality in the Church by Pam Hogeweide

Fiction

  •  A Discovery of Witches by Deborah Harkness
  •  Dark Currents: Agent of Hel by Jaqueline Carey
  •  Gabriel’s Inferno by Sylvain Reynard
  •  Gabriel’s Rapture by Sylvain Reynard
  •  Fifty Shades of Gray by E.L. James
  •  Fifty Shades Darker by E.L. James
  •  Fifty Shades Freed by E.L. James
  •  Dhampir by Barb & J.C. Hendee
  •  Thief of Lives by Barb & J.C. Hendee
  •  Sister of the Dead by Barb & J.C. Hendee
  •  Traitor to the Blood by Barb & J.C. Hendee
  •  Rebel Fay by Barb & J.C. Hendee
  •  Child of a Dead God by Barb & J.C. Hendee
  •  Saints Astray by Jacqueline Carey
  •  Insurgent Veronica Roth
  •  Bridge of Dreams Anne Bishop
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Letters to a Future Church

Posted on April 17, 2012July 11, 2025

I had been anticipating the release of the book Letters to a Future Church: Words of Encouragement and Prophetic Appeals (IVP), so I eagerly said that I would participate in a blog tour related to the book. As a collection of letters to the church from both leaders and laity alike, the book lives up to its subtitle as it offers both encouragement and prophetic calls to embrace various ways of being a Christian in the 21st century. What I found most intriguing was that in its intent to address the future church, what this collection provides is a helpful snapshot of the diversity of voices in the North American Evangelical church today. So, for instance, some of the letters uphold right doctrine and culture wars as the path forward for the church and others the embracing of social justice. Some voices both question and mock the perceived problems of the church today while others rejoice in the blessings the body of Christ is offering the world. With authors as diverse as Rachel Held Evans, Tim Challies, Shane Claiborne, and David Fitch these differences are not surprising. At the same time it is immensely encouraging to read these diverse voices coming together under the common vision of imagining what it means to be the church in the years ahead.

While I found a number of the letters personally challenging, the most poignant word for the church (for me at least) was in Peter Rollins’ letter. He writes –

It is not enough for you [the church] to say that you are falling short of your beliefs, for this very confession plays into the idea that there is a difference between your various beliefs and your actions. Rather, if you will permit, I ask you to remember the radical Christian insight that one’s actions reflect one’s beliefs. That you cannot say that you believe in God if you do not commit yourself to what Kierkegaard referred to as the work love.

As part of this blog tour, I was asked to write my own letter to the church which I have found to be more difficult than I thought it would be. There are a million things that I could say to the church, most of which are simply evidence of my own failings and hypocrisy. But as I thought about it over the past few weeks, one theme in particular kept coming to mind which echoed Rollins’ letter in many ways. Hence my letter –

Dear Church,

I’m tired. I just don’t have the ability to keep up with the façade of “church” anymore. Oh, I love Jesus, I am crazy about living into the Kingdom of God, and I desperately want to be with the body of Christ, but I just can no longer keep up with the systems and structures that go along with all of that. I know it’s cliché to talk about wanting to be the church as opposed to merely doing church, but right now all I see are the structural façades and they are overwhelming.

It’s not that any one branch of the church is to blame – megachurch, mainline, or housechurch – all seem bogged down with the idea that the church exists for its own sake. The point seems to be to perfect the performance, hone the ritual, grow the structure so that the church can survive and thrive. It’s all (in theory) so that the church can bless its members and be able to serve the world, but all too often it seems like the forms of church become the purpose of church consuming all of our vision and energy. The actions of church don’t reflect the things I claim to believe and yet they demand all our attention. And I just have to confess that right now I am worn out.

I’m not interested in building structures right now. Or defining boundaries or expressing unwavering loyalty to a tribe. Or even in the survival of any group or gathering (even as I respect and cherish the need for such). Instead of constantly shoring up structures, I feel like I need the space to mourn. Not just for my own personal stuff as it seems every structure in the world exists to help me deal with me, but instead to be able to focus less on strengthening particular forms and more on taking the time to lament the fracturing amidst the forms. To listen to the stories of the body that have been kept silent, to hear the groanings of the body that our choruses and chants drown out, to strip away our beautiful facades in favor of sackcloth and ashes. I need the space to hear of the struggles of the body of Christ and the trials of inhabiting God’s Kingdom without the distractions of having to protect a structure.

Jesus said those who mourn will be comforted and that the weary will be given rest, but dear Church, how can we ever find the comfort that comes from mourning or the rest from burdens when we must constantly be working to hold up your façade? So what I simply ask is this – provide space for us, as the church, to mourn; let us please rest.

Your Sister,
Julie

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If you could write a letter to the church what would you say? InterVarsity Press and Patheos would love to hear your thoughts. Now through May the 4th anyone who is interested is invited to submit a letter to the IVP Letters to the Future Church Campaign for a chance to have your letter posted at Patheos and get some of the latest IVP books. So what is the message that you think the church needs to hear?

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Paul, Women, and New Creation

Posted on January 16, 2012July 11, 2025

As I mentioned last week, I’m am excited to be part of the blog tour for Daniel Kirk’s latest book Jesus Have I Loved, but Paul? Drop by the blog tour website to read others’ contributions to the tour as they interact with various chapters in the book (and don’t forget to enter the contest to win a free copy of the book!). As luck would have it (or perhaps because I’m the only woman participating in the tour), I was asked to engage with Chapter 6 “Women in the Story of God.”

In my experience, the number one reason people have issues with Paul is because of the passages regarding women’s roles in his letters. A few select passages seemingly calling for women to submit to men and to be silent in church are enough for many to jettison Paul from the canon. As some read Paul (or at least have had Paul imposed upon them), he seems to be denying the very humanity and dignity of women – something that Jesus never did. With such an interpretation as a given, it’s difficult for many to figure out what to do with Paul. There are of course those that use such an interpretation of Paul to demean and oppress women. Some believing that they have no right to question that interpretation accept it and yet keep Paul at a distance, like a creepy relative that they would prefer not to show up at family gatherings. Others outright reject Paul, claiming that such a patriarchal attitude nullifies any right his words have to speak into our world today. Some accept Paul, but insist that his words restricting women must have been added by some later scribe. In light of all that, it’s easy to see how it’s hard to love Paul.

Yet I’ve generally found all those approaches to be lacking. Having to choose between rejecting the reality of the biblical context or rejecting the Bible because of the reality of the biblical context both seemed too limiting for me.

So I appreciate the approach Kirk offers in his book. In situating Paul within the context of the larger narrative of scripture, he begins by addressing how women are treated in the text beyond the traditional “clobber-women-into-submission” passages. What he reveals is a world where patriarchy is the norm and yet women are find opportunities to serve in all areas of the church. From the scriptural evidence of what women were in truth doing in the church, Kirk argues that the controversial passages have both at times been interpreted wrongly and yet give testimony to the ambiguity present in scripture. He states, “As for Scripture, it not only sows seeds of equality whose flowers never fully bloom on its pages; it also continues to reflect and, at times, affirm the inequalities endemic to its ancient cultural context.” (118). In short, the Bible contains both stories of women leading churches, preaching and prophesying, and embracing greater dignity in the church than their culture ever bestowed upon them as well as statements supporting the gender hierarchies of the time. Kirk concludes that to argue that the Bible is either fully egalitarian or fully patriarchal is to ignore its cultural situation.

But although that cultural context might be messy and not reflect fully what we might want to find in Scripture, Kirk argues that what is most important is to remember that we are part of the ongoing narrative of God’s story. He writes that this narrative “is as dramatic and sweeping a gospel narrative as one could hope for. … Paul’s narrative of salvation is nothing less than the proclamation and embodiment here and now of the coming dominion of God” (50). So therefore, “because it is a story of cosmic transformation, the story has to be embodied and lived” (51). To proclaim the dominion of God is to live in its ways here and now – to testify to its transforming power. The gospel gives “glimpses of a new creation that has no hierarchical distinction between male and female. It is not a vision that is worked out consistently in the first-century culture in which the New Testament writings grew-up, but it is one that fits within the plot of a story that turns all social hierarchies on their head as God comes to rule the world through a crucified Messiah” (137) Instead of giving sin power by letting the patriarchy of that time keep us from living out the redemptive nature of new creation now, Kirk calls us to instead embrace Christ’s redemptive work and turn upside-down the controlling hierarchies of this world.

I greatly appreciate this take on Paul that affirms both the reality of his context and the reality of what women were doing in the early church. Placing myself within a continuing narrative witnessing to new creation makes far more sense to me than just rejecting Paul because he isn’t who I would like for him to be. I do wish though that Kirk had explored whether he thought it would have been appropriate for women to live into that narrative of New Creation in periods in history where it might have caused the surrounded cultures to be offended. Should women’s dignity, worth, and equality be affirmed because such things are true or only when affirming them would not give offense within a particular culture? I get that Paul may have imposed restrictions on women so that they wouldn’t offend the culture, but I am left wondering in this interpretation at what point one should simply embrace New Creation in spite of the culture that does not understand the light shining in the darkness?

I found myself most troubled in this chapter when immediately after arguing that we should embrace Christ’s redemptive power by affirming an egalitarian position on gender, Kirk jumped straight to the most common argument used to temper the radical assertion of equality. He is quick to say that real Christ-like egalitarianism is not therefore a call for women to seek out positions of leadership in the church as to be called to Christ is to accept the hard life of submission and servant hood. While I wouldn’t argue that following Christ does involve a servant’s heart, this is an argument that has been used over and over as simply a backhanded way of asserting patriarchy in the name of equality. I honestly don’t think Kirk intended to do so here, but I do wonder if he was unaware of how this argument has been used to give lip-service to egalitarianism while ensuring nothing really changes in the male-dominated church.

As many feminist scholars have argued, to accuse women of the sin of self-seeking pride when they attempt to use their God-given gifts leads to many women burying those gifts lest they fall into sin. They are bullied into passivity under the guise of humility. That is not what it means though to follow Christ and live into the telos of who God created us to be. Centuries though of being told that unless we submit and let men dominate us we are sinning and not being sufficiently Christ-like are difficult to overcome. The last thing women need to hear more of is that we are sinning or living in the ways of the world when we choose to accept God’s call to use the gifts God has given us.

We still live in a world marred by the oppressive ways of patriarchy. The dominion of God where there is no male or female is not yet fully realized, although we are called to live as if it is. Perhaps we still need gender specific instructions for how to live in these ways. To men, yes, counter years of living in unChrist-like ways by telling them to be servants and to not pursue positions of power in the church. But, to women, don’t reinforce the idea that they are sining by living into their gifts. Encourage them instead to reject the ways of the world by accepting their gifts and having no fear in using them to serve Christ. I don’t believe that Daniel Kirk was trying to reinforce gender hierarchies by bringing up this standard caution regarding egalitarianism, but I would be remiss to not mention what the warning can imply for women. We are still living into this narrative that affirms the breaking in of the reign of God in the here and now, and so I do greatly appreciate this book’s helpful way of realistically dealing with often unsettling texts. Even as the New Creation is yet unfolding, so it seems is our ability to figure out how to best embrace Christ’s redemption in our lives.

Although I would have liked this chapter to offer more constructive suggestions for navigating gender in the New Creation, I appreciate the ways in which it reframes the conversation regarding Paul and women. For those of us who have never felt comfortable with the options given to us for how we should handle Paul, it proposes an affirming yet realistic engagement that allows both Scripture and the transformative redemptive power of Christ to co-exist as part of the narrative of God’s people.

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Jesus Have I Loved, But Paul? – Blog Tour

Posted on January 9, 2012July 11, 2025

So I’m honored to be part of the blog tour for Daniel Kirk’s latest book Jesus Have I Loved, But Paul? The premise of the book intrigued me – for those of us in the postmodern era who admittedly have issues with Paul (as he’s been presented to us at least), the book explores if we have any other options than to just deal with that unease or abandon Paul altogether. It’s a question I wrestle with and so far have been dissatisfied with the ways I’ve seen it answered. So I was grateful to be sent this book and given the opportunity to interact with it. I’m officially blogging on Chapter 6 – “Women in the story of God” for the blog tour (look for that next Monday), but there were a few ideas that I wanted to bring up about it at the start of the online discussion.

I’m a fan of Daniel Kirk’s writing. After meeting him at the 2009 Emergent Theological Conversation, I’ve enjoyed following him online. He is one of the few academics that Tweets about all aspects of life – from theological questions to what he’s making his family for breakfast. As a good postmodern who values authenticity, that’s something I admire. I like the questions he asks and his way of presenting possible answers. I don’t always agree with him, but I always respect how he engages in the conversation – which also sums up my reaction to his book. There are places in the book where I have quibbles (and a few outright objections), but on the whole I appreciate his overall vision that Paul is presenting a narrative theology of how the identity of the people of God gets formed which very much holds together with both the story of Israel and Jesus’ teachings.

Growing up as an evangelical, I received heavy doses of Paul (and little of Jesus), but the Paul I received was a Paul who was both quick to criticize and dismiss his Jewish roots and offer the hope of escaping this world soon by shuffling off the despised mortal flesh. But once I started paying attention to the Old Testament and the teachings of Jesus, this Paul no longer made sense. I was one of those that the book suggests needs “a healthy deconstruction of their understanding of Paul” (5). And this book does that and does it well. In rescuing Paul from his forced isolation by demonstrating how he contributes to the ongoing narrative of God working to redeem the world, it transforms the often uncomfortable dogmatic statements and rules into vital (albeit often contextual) parts of that story.

What I appreciated most was how Kirk interpreted Paul’s writings on the hope of the resurrection. He straightforwardly demonstrates that this hope has nothing to do with escape from or rejection of creation, but instead is all about living into the new creation. This hope means that the kingdom of God is now and that Jesus is reigning over it putting it in order. As Kirk writes, what this means is that “The kingdom of God is at hand in the undoing of all the sin and death and brokenness and disorder that mar the very good world of God” (39). The advice that Paul gives in his letters is not about perfecting oneself so that one day one might be worthy of heaven, but practical advice for how the community of God lives in the kingdom here and now as part of God’s work restoring creation.

I appreciate this eschatological interpretation of Paul’s narrative theology that values the present as much as it does the future. It is hard to love the world enough to desire its transformation (as Jesus and the Old Testament prophets did) if one simply desires to escape it someday. But as the book argues, Paul is presenting a vision for how people continue in the way of Jesus and live transformativly in the present. And this is possible because “new creation is not simply something that we look forward to; it is something in which we already participate. The culmination of the story is exerting a sort of backward force, such that the future, by power of the life-giving Spirit, is intruding on the present and transforming it” (47). As one who has had Paul imposed on me as apology for why I shouldn’t care about seeking justice in the world, this rescuing of Paul from his escapist captivity is refreshing. For those who have been uneasy with the Paul they were taught (who seemed to have little to do with the Jesus they love) and who respect the Bible too much to simply reject Paul’s writing, this returning of Paul to the larger narrative context of scripture is a blessing making the book well worth the read. I will be engaging specifically the books’ perspective on Paul’s writings on women next week where I will address a few of my minor concerns with the book, but I wanted to highlight here the book’s exceedingly helpful presentation of Paul in light of the rest of scripture. I encourage readers to follow the blog tour and engage in the conversation as it unfolds.

Be sure to stop by the Blog Tour Hub for a chance to win a free copy of the book!

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2011 Books

Posted on December 31, 2011July 11, 2025

For the past six years I have been posting at year’s end all the books I read in the previous year. The list is mostly for myself as it is a convenient way to keep track of when I read certain things, but I know I also love looking at other people’s reading lists, so I might as well put mine out there as well. This year’s list is not as diverse as in past years as seminary has me reading mostly theology books, but they were good reads and I finally got to read some books that I had been meaning to for some time. I did return to favorites this year – reading the Hunger Games again and the Kushiel books for what must have been the 7th or 8th time. I also finally got around to reading the Stieg Larsson’s Millennium Trilogy, which I highly recommend. In the fiction realm as well, I also really enjoyed Veronica Roth’s Divergent – a dystopian young adult novel about a world where people are divided into factions depending on the virtue they exhibit most strongly. It reads a bit like Hunger Games meets Ender’s Game, but if you’ve spent time in Chicago, the book is worth it just for the post-apocalyptic downtown Chicago setting. As for non-fiction, it was nice to finally read through Moltmann’s Theology of Hope and Desmond Tutu’s No Future Without Forgiveness – both were great reads. I also loved James Loewen’s Lies My Teacher Told Me, which I think should be required reading in order for anyone to graduate college. The book highlighted for me how much I don’t know about history as well as the ways education is often used as a tool of control instead of as a means of teaching truth or encouraging students to think. It’s a disturbing, but helpful read.

I wish I had more time to read these days, but here’s my list of books I read this past year. I’d love to hear your thoughts on these books, and any recommendations for what I should read next year.

Non-fiction

  •  I Am My Body by Elisabeth Moltmann-Wendel
  •  Journey to the Common Good by Walter Brueggemann
  •  On Christian Doctrine by Saint Augustine
  •  The Moment of Christian Witness by Hans Urs von Balthasar
  • Interpreting the Postmodern Ed. by Rosemary Radford Ruether and Marion Glau
  •  The Power of the Word by Elizabeth Schussler Fiorenza
  •  The Eclipse of the Biblical Narrative by Hans Frei
  •  Scripture in the Tradition by Henri de Lubac
  •  Interpretation Theory by Paul Ricoeur
  •  Truth and Method by Hans-Georg Gadamer
  •  Unsettling Narratives by Clare Braford
  •  The Girl Who Was on Fire Edited by Leah Wilson
  •  Race: A Theological Account by J. Kameron Carter
  •  Jesus and Nonviolence by Walter Wink
  •  No Future Without Forgiveness by Desmond Tutu
  •  Mangoes or Bananas? by Hwa Yung
  •  Lies My Teacher Told Me by James W. Loewen
  •  Improvisation by Samuel Wells
  •  Christians Among the Virtues by Stanley Hauerwas and Charles Pinches
  •  Theology of Hope by Jurgen Moltmann
  •  The Humanity of God by Karl Barth
  •  Face of the Deep by Catherine Keller
  •  Speaking of Sin by Barbara Brown Taylor
  •  The Moral Vision of the New Testament by Richard Hays
  •  Paul Ricoeur’s Hermeneutics of the Imagination by Jeanne Evans
  •  Figuring the Sacred by Paul Ricoeur
  •  Jesus Have I Loved, but Paul? by J.R. Daniel Kirk

Fiction

  •  The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo by Stieg Larsson
  •  The Girl Who Played with Fire bu Stieg Larsson
  •  The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet’s Nest by Steig Larsson
  •  Troubled Waters by Sharon Shinn
  • Twilight’s Dawn by Anne Bishop
  • Seer of Sevenwaters by Juliet Marillier
  •  Kushiel’s Legacy Series Books 1-8 by Jacqueline Carey
  • The Hunger Games Trilogy by Suzanne Collins
  • Naamah’s Blessing by Jacqueline Carey
  • A Great And Terrible Beauty by Libba Bray
  • Rebel Angels by Libba Bray
  • The Sweet Far Thing by Libba Bray
  •  Divergent by Veronica Roth
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Love Wins – A Review

Posted on March 15, 2011July 11, 2025

The editors at the Sojourner’s God Politics blog sent me an advance copy of Rob Bell’s controversial new book Love Wins to review. The review was originally posted at the blog here.

Whether it was a brilliant marketing strategy or just a sad reflection of the charged atmosphere of Christian dialogue these days, one cannot deny that Rob Bell’s latest book Love Wins has stirred up a load of controversy before it has even hit the shelves. As a book claiming the daunting task of being “A Book about Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived,” the uproar was understandable although disappointingly cruel at times. For some reason many Christians hold to the notion that where we go when we die is the most important aspect of our faith and thus get rather up in arms when people even dare to open that topic up for conversation. Bell deftly addresses the need to re-prioritize what is central to our faith, but more on that in a moment. Let me first get the controversial stuff out of the way.

Does Bell believe in hell? Yes. Does Bell believe in heaven? Yes. Is Bell firmly rooted in Christian Orthodoxy? Yes. Does Bell think that Jesus is the way? Yes. Is Bell a universalist? If by that we mean that God is reconciling all creation to himself and that we shouldn’t assume that God will fail at this, then yes, Bell is a universalist. If that’s all you want to know so that you can judge, label, dismiss or whatever, then you can stop reading now. But if you are curious about what the book is really about and the hope-filled message of transformation it contains, then I invite you to keep reading.

At the most basic level, Love Wins is a typical Rob Bell book. Which is to say that he writes like he speaks and so what the reader encounters is an easy to read yet powerful narrative that speaks straight to the heart. Bell’s gift is to take tremendously complex theological concepts and translate them so that they are not just understandable to all but also blessedly practical. People can complain that he is too popular or over-marketed, but it is this gift that makes him resonate with so many people. At the same time, those who are versed in history and theology can clearly see the conversations of Christians through the centuries behind the ideas Bell expresses. He is not espousing anything new in this book, simply making accessible the rich tradition of Christian thought for believers today.

And what he is saying is powerful. Bell gets at the heart of what Christians believe about God and isn’t afraid to challenge the implicit assumptions about God that are at the core of some Christians’ belief systems. Central to that message is the suggestion that our relationship with the God of the universe is a dynamic and not static reality. Jesus’ work on the cross isn’t just an historical event, but an ongoing narrative of redemption and reconciliation. Our faith isn’t just about going to heaven when we die, but about entering into a relationship and partnership with God now and for eternity. Heaven and hell are real for Bell, but are not simply places we go when we die. They are connected to who we are in Christ now. We are called to accept the gift of a transformative life that can endure even death. This life is a gift from a God who truly desires life on earth to be like it is in heaven, both now and for eternity, and who lets us serve as partners in this work of reconciling a world that God loves and will never give up on.

This message that God loves his creation so much that God refuses to give up on us, forms the core of Bell’s book. Bell points out, that since the early church fathers, Christians have held that since God’s central essence is love, it is reconciliation and not eternal suffering that brings God the most glory. What we believe and how we act are vitally important, but in the end upholding and glorifying the essence of God is most important. And when we insist that people who think differently than us, or who haven’t had the same revelation as us, or who said a different prayer than us will be eternally separate from a God the scriptures say works for and longs for the redemption of all things, we are stripping God of his power and denying him glory.

At the same time, Bell doesn’t deny that love involves freedom. We are free to deny God and to refuse to live the ways of God’s kingdom. God cannot abide injustice or greed or hatred – such things have no place in the world to come and have significant consequences in the world now. Suffering exists and God cares about those in pain, yet God loves us enough to allow us to continue to live in the hell of our own choosing. Hell is real, but it is a place we create for ourselves as we reject the gift of life God offers to us. But in the scriptures judgment is always connected to restoration. God essence is love and that essence can never change. The gates of heaven never shut, for even as God will not abide injustice and sin in his realm he by nature is always desiring the reconciliation and restoration of all things. God can never stop being God which means that in the end, love has to win.

Love Wins is not a book about who is in or out. That sort of talk is too small. It is a book that invites people to remember the life God is offering them and that encourages them to thrive as they joyously participate in that life. Bell challenges theologies that seem to have forgotten what it means to live this life and moves the conversation back to a placed where Christians have the freedom to say yes to the gift God continually offers. Christianity isn’t about being right or wrong, it’s about living joyously and transformativly for Jesus – and that is a message we can all benefit from being reminded of.

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