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Love Wins – A Review

2011 March 15

The editors at the Sojourner’s God Politics blog sent me an advance copy of Rob Bell’s controversial new book Love Wins to review. The review was originally posted at the blog here.

Whether it was a brilliant marketing strategy or just a sad reflection of the charged atmosphere of Christian dialogue these days, one cannot deny that Rob Bell’s latest book Love Wins has stirred up a load of controversy before it has even hit the shelves. As a book claiming the daunting task of being “A Book about Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived,” the uproar was understandable although disappointingly cruel at times. For some reason many Christians hold to the notion that where we go when we die is the most important aspect of our faith and thus get rather up in arms when people even dare to open that topic up for conversation. Bell deftly addresses the need to re-prioritize what is central to our faith, but more on that in a moment. Let me first get the controversial stuff out of the way.

Does Bell believe in hell? Yes. Does Bell believe in heaven? Yes. Is Bell firmly rooted in Christian Orthodoxy? Yes. Does Bell think that Jesus is the way? Yes. Is Bell a universalist? If by that we mean that God is reconciling all creation to himself and that we shouldn’t assume that God will fail at this, then yes, Bell is a universalist. If that’s all you want to know so that you can judge, label, dismiss or whatever, then you can stop reading now. But if you are curious about what the book is really about and the hope-filled message of transformation it contains, then I invite you to keep reading.

At the most basic level, Love Wins is a typical Rob Bell book. Which is to say that he writes like he speaks and so what the reader encounters is an easy to read yet powerful narrative that speaks straight to the heart. Bell’s gift is to take tremendously complex theological concepts and translate them so that they are not just understandable to all but also blessedly practical. People can complain that he is too popular or over-marketed, but it is this gift that makes him resonate with so many people. At the same time, those who are versed in history and theology can clearly see the conversations of Christians through the centuries behind the ideas Bell expresses. He is not espousing anything new in this book, simply making accessible the rich tradition of Christian thought for believers today.

And what he is saying is powerful. Bell gets at the heart of what Christians believe about God and isn’t afraid to challenge the implicit assumptions about God that are at the core of some Christians’ belief systems. Central to that message is the suggestion that our relationship with the God of the universe is a dynamic and not static reality. Jesus’ work on the cross isn’t just an historical event, but an ongoing narrative of redemption and reconciliation. Our faith isn’t just about going to heaven when we die, but about entering into a relationship and partnership with God now and for eternity. Heaven and hell are real for Bell, but are not simply places we go when we die. They are connected to who we are in Christ now. We are called to accept the gift of a transformative life that can endure even death. This life is a gift from a God who truly desires life on earth to be like it is in heaven, both now and for eternity, and who lets us serve as partners in this work of reconciling a world that God loves and will never give up on.

This message that God loves his creation so much that God refuses to give up on us, forms the core of Bell’s book. Bell points out, that since the early church fathers, Christians have held that since God’s central essence is love, it is reconciliation and not eternal suffering that brings God the most glory. What we believe and how we act are vitally important, but in the end upholding and glorifying the essence of God is most important. And when we insist that people who think differently than us, or who haven’t had the same revelation as us, or who said a different prayer than us will be eternally separate from a God the scriptures say works for and longs for the redemption of all things, we are stripping God of his power and denying him glory.

At the same time, Bell doesn’t deny that love involves freedom. We are free to deny God and to refuse to live the ways of God’s kingdom. God cannot abide injustice or greed or hatred – such things have no place in the world to come and have significant consequences in the world now. Suffering exists and God cares about those in pain, yet God loves us enough to allow us to continue to live in the hell of our own choosing. Hell is real, but it is a place we create for ourselves as we reject the gift of life God offers to us. But in the scriptures judgment is always connected to restoration. God essence is love and that essence can never change. The gates of heaven never shut, for even as God will not abide injustice and sin in his realm he by nature is always desiring the reconciliation and restoration of all things. God can never stop being God which means that in the end, love has to win.

Love Wins is not a book about who is in or out. That sort of talk is too small. It is a book that invites people to remember the life God is offering them and that encourages them to thrive as they joyously participate in that life. Bell challenges theologies that seem to have forgotten what it means to live this life and moves the conversation back to a placed where Christians have the freedom to say yes to the gift God continually offers. Christianity isn’t about being right or wrong, it’s about living joyously and transformativly for Jesus – and that is a message we can all benefit from being reminded of.

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  1. March 15, 2011

    Thanks, Julie.

  2. March 15, 2011

    Excellent review, Julie. I look forward to reading Rob Bell’s book.

  3. March 15, 2011

    Thanks, Julie! I haven’t connected as much to Rob Bell’s books in the past, though not for the reasons many are spewing these days. I’m looking forward to reading this one, though. Another great book on the topic: If Grace is True by Philip Gulley and James Mulholland. That book finally gave me permission to believe what I’ve felt in my heart for a long time, and further research (I’m not a trained theologian) showed me that it was, in fact, a pretty Orthodox approach. I’m curious to see what happens now that a popular spiritual writer has tackled the subject.

  4. Hillary permalink
    March 15, 2011

    (er… was calling him ‘prez’ disrespectful? haha… ok, Fuller Theological Seminary President Richard J. Mouw. There. That’s better! :) )

  5. March 16, 2011

    “…God loves us enough to allow us to continue to live in the hell of our own choosing.”

    This thought just came to me: didn’t C. S. Lewis make essentially this same point in The Great Divorce?

  6. March 16, 2011

    “Christianity isn’t about being right or wrong, it’s about living joyously and transformativly for Jesus ” Amen! Amen! Amen!

    And this just came to me (sorry it’s a little off topic): It’s not about what would Jesus do (static reality), but more about what IS Jesus doing in our lives (dynamic).

    Eventually Julie, the love that screams from our hearts will eventually be heard over the din of judgment, fear and hate. Love will win. Thank you for continuing to preach it.

  7. March 16, 2011

    Thanks again, Julie. We really do not know how it will all turn out, do we? In a certain sense, it depends on whether the human will, as created by God, can withstand the love of God, forever. Lewis, as in The Great Divorce, thought the human will was that strong and God too great a gentleman to barge in where he was not wanted. Or perhaps not. Perhaps God does not barge at all but slowly warms the shrivelled soul until it opens of its own volition, until hell itself is finally and eternally, empty. Or perhaps not…
    That we do not know about such a thing suggests to me that our human jobs are themselves elsewhere. We are not given the task of sorting the wheat from the chaff because we will always get it wrong. I think Bell is saying, our job is to love, to love concretely, in all we do, in every area of our lives. That is vastly more than I can do without a great deal of gracious help from God. Perhaps Piper and his ilk should leave the angels’ work to the angels.

  8. March 16, 2011

    Yes.

    Thank you, Julie. Thoughtful and generous as always.

  9. Greg Cooper permalink
    March 17, 2011

    Thank you for this… I’m getting sick of hearing Christians judging and persecuting Rob Bell based on the promo videos (which have clearly worked) for this book. A brilliantly written review, I am now ultra-excited about receiving my book from the website I ordered it from and getting into it

  10. March 17, 2011

    Thanks, Julie! Great review! I was sent the link to your Sojourner’s review of Bell’s book by a friend of mine in Tucson. I’ve been writing a book about “who gets in” for a while now; taking the point that “everyone’s in,” and that God never gives up on getting us there. Doug knew this and forwarded me your review. I let him know about you and how wonderful you and your family are, and the contributions you make to our congretation.
    Take care!

    Brian

  11. bob permalink
    March 18, 2011

    “Hell is real, but it is a place we create for ourselves”

    that is soooo wrong on so many levels…….this too

    “Christianity isn’t about being right or wrong, it’s about living joyously and transformativly for Jesus”

    Utilitarianism?? right….

    • Bob B. permalink
      March 18, 2011

      Thanks Bob…this is true. Love truly does win, but in order for that to happen, justice and holiness need to win. Fortunately with God, they do.

      I was a big Rob Bell fan after seeing his NOOMA videos at my church. Now I feel like a dear friend as betrayed me. I can only imagine how Jesus feels right now. Is Jesus love? YES! He loves us enough to be truthful – not ambiguous.

      For a much more in-depth review of the book, please consider this:
      http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2011/03/14/rob-bell-love-wins-review/

      I do not aim to bash Rob….I want him to be in the light – with Biblical truth. I want him to turn from his Scripture-twisting ways and not ignore the wrath of God that is clearly mentioned in the Bible. NO ONE has to experience this wrath…Rob is right in that sense: We choose it. We either choose to follow Christ or not. I really think this “burden” is easy, as Scriptures say it is. It is not “misguided and toxic.” Only the actions of Christians doing horrible things in the name of Christ would fit under those adjectives.

      • Nathan permalink
        April 22, 2011

        Where does Bell ignore the wrath of God in his book? You can’t just take a page or two out of a book and forget about the rest. Bell says that people WILL face the wrath of God. But like the reviewer said, this book isn’t about priorities now, not what happens tomorrow as much.

      • February 25, 2012

        I wrote this response to Deyoung’s review of Rob’s book http://nowthinkaboutit.com/2011/12/reflections-on-love-wins/

        And truthfully, the only thing he did was give us the same answers we’ve grown accustomed to hearing for the last century. The questions Rob raises were dismissed, not answered and some were quite compelling.

        Rob mentioned “age of accountability” and if you think through that concept thoroughly you realize his conclusions might not be as far off the mark as some seem to think.

        If a person died one second after the age of accountability, having lived in a non-Christian country, never hearing or possibly never allowed to hear or consider the Gospel would God disallow them the chance to be saved after death?

        I wrote about that here: http://nowthinkaboutit.com/2012/02/love-wins-and-the-age-of-accountability/

        And from what I could (I read the book straight through twice and scanned is at least times more) Rob doesn’t deny hell, wrath, or judgment. He denies that death is the final moment of decision.

        Although it is never mentioned, that idea contradicts calvinism at its very foundations.

  12. March 18, 2011

    gracefilled

    thoughtful

    helpful

    Thank You!

  13. Scott Johnson permalink
    March 19, 2011

    Nice job, Julie. Found you through Scot McKnight’s blog. The tone and spirit of your review captures the heart of Bell (as well as the heart of God) better than most. Bravo!

    As a pastor and teacher, I try to keep people from closing their hearts to those who are asking truly good and meaningful questions. I never forget the meaning of Jacob’s new name.

  14. Sarah permalink
    March 22, 2011

    Christianity is in a sad state. With this line of thinking, satan wins, because he is the one who is thrilled to have us believe a lie. This must be similar to the deception process that satan used on Eve, ie. surely God didn’t really say you couldn’t eat of that tree-He just doesn’t want you to be as smart as He is, and now Surely God didn’t really mean the way was straight and narrow and few would find it, He really meant you don’t have to repent and dedicate your life to Him, you just have to show LOVE to all, oh woops, now we don’t really need that whole messy DEATH and RESURRECTION thing, do we???

    • March 24, 2011

      Sarah,

      If you spend some time poking around Julie’s blog, I think you’ll find no shortage of writings that take seriously things like repentance, dedicated faith, death, resurrection, and all manner of messy and difficult intersections of faith and life.

      Neither Julie nor Rob Bell (the best I can tell) are advocating love as a saving concept apart from Christ’s love. Both are trying to reframe the way that we understand God’s love in Christ for the world. There’s been a lot of damage done in the world in the name of “love,” and much violence (physical, spiritual, and emotional) done from a skewed notion of how God’s love functions in the world.

      I’m not sure what “lie” you imply that we are believing. To believe that the life, death, and resurrection of Christ is good news for the world, to believe that in Christ death has been conquered, to believe that Christ leads us in faith to bring light and love to the world…are these not the central markers of our faith?

      I trust and believe that whatever happens when I die, and whatever happens when this world passes away, I will be judged by my faith in (and faithfulness to) Christ….NOT by my faithfulness to this doctrine or that doctrine (which are and will always be human constructions), and not even judged by my Biblical hermeneutics.

  15. Colin permalink
    April 7, 2011

    As much as I want this book to be true, it just isn’t. If we reject Jesus here during time being with Him for eternity would be a fate worse than hell. The unbelievers would be drug into the loving arms of God kicking and screaming. This is the type on non-sense designed to make Christianity more pallatable to the world. If he wants to package this thinking as secular thats fine, just don’t claim it represents Christianity in any way shape or form.

    • April 7, 2011

      Colin – I just can’t put temporal limits on God that you are assuming exist. God is not constrained by time, so therefore God’s love and mercy are not constrained by time. No one is saying that God coerces people to accept him the moment they die, but neither are we saying that we stop being able to fulfill our nature as image bearers of God the moment we die either. Hell exists, it is our rejection of God. If exists now and after death, but I refuse to make God so small that death and time can defeat God’s love. That doesn’t represent Christianity in any shape or form. I actually think it is just as unpallatable for a non-christian that I think that given eternity they will one day return to their nature as a being in relationship with God as if I told them that they will burn in eternity forever. I am still saying that I think they are wrong, but refusing to limit God in how I believe that wrongness will be dealt with.

      • bobm permalink
        November 6, 2012

        show me in scripture where it says people get a second chance to receive eternal life. You may think what you want but the Word of God never changes.

  16. Nathan E permalink
    April 8, 2011

    i’m new to reading bell so i dont want to just to jump to conclusions to quickly. but i dont know how you can read the bible and believe what bell is implying. i get the overarching theme, and it initially seems beautiful and refreshing. but the details and specific biblical references in the book are so misinterpreted and misleading. his message is at best confusing and and worst heretical. i want the best for rob and his ministry. i really do. my wife worked for nooma for many years and found most of bell’s teaching very refreshing. but this book seems lost in nuance and vague notions of what love is. it seems like a half truth. there is no sense of god’s holiness and justice. new perspectives on the bible rarely stand the test of time, and i fear rob is a victim of wanting to sound relevant and considerate.

    christianity isn’t about being right or wrong? at some point it actually is.

  17. April 15, 2011

    It is interesting how Julie and the other followers of liberal theology talk in terms of “I”. I think, I feel, I refuse to believe……, My God would not…., etc. rather than consider what the Bible says on all issues!

    • Mick permalink
      April 17, 2011

      When you adopt universalism and erase the distinction between the church and the worldthen you don’t need the church, and you don’t need Christ, and you don’t need the cross. This is the tragedy of nonjudgmental mainline liberalism, and it’s Rob Bell’s tragedy in this book too. .Like so many others, Bell wants to separate the message of Jesus from other voices even in the New Testament, particularly the voice of the Apostle Paul. Here we face the inescapable question of biblical authority. We will either affirm that every word of the Bible is true, trustworthy, and authoritative, or we will create our own Bible according to our own preferences. Put bluntly, if Jesus and Paul are not telling the same story, we have no idea what the true story is.

    • April 21, 2011

      So let’s suppose you guys are right. Let’s suppose the Bible really can only be interpreted in one way regarding Hell, and that it is your interpretation. In that case, why are you still Christians? Why would you believe in that kind of God? If the Bible really does portray only the kind of God you say it does, then why wouldn’t you turn away from that religion in horror and disgust? Because let’s be perfectly blunt – no theological games or obscuring the facts behind poetic doctrinal formulations – when all is said and done, the God you say the Bible portrays is taking real human beings – mothers, daddies, daughters, sons, wives, best friends – and allowing them to EXIST IN EXCRUCIATING TORMENT FOR ALL ETERNITY! And that with no hope of grace or forgiveness or respite at all. All based primarily on the fact that the person held the wrong set of philosophical beliefs in their head (or whatever your particular conditions for being condemned to an eternity of torment are).

      So again, you may be right about the Bible. Maybe it says exactly what you say it does, and nothing else. But if it does, then why would you worship a God like that?!

    • Sean permalink
      June 4, 2011

      I fully and completely trust the Bible, the authoritative Word of God, which says in multiple places that God wants all people to be saved, and that through Jesus, all people are saved. All.

  18. Nathan permalink
    April 22, 2011

    This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. (1 Tim 2)

    John 3:16
    Isaiah 45:21-25
    1 John 2:2
    1 John 4:14
    John 12:30-32
    Luke 2:10
    Psalm 22:27

    so when is ALL not ALL?

    How is this verse explained?

    This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance. 10 That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe. (1 Tim 4: 9-10)

    How is Isaiah 25 explained?

    I could go on and on and on. Bell seems to be bringing a theme of Scripture up that often seems to be ignored. People have believed for so long just because their preacher or parents said it and have no idea what Scripture says. Heck, most preachers don’t even know what Scripture says. I have been a pastor for 17 years, and I am still learning so much and finding new joys in Scripture every day.

    I don’t agree theologically with Bell on some issues, but I will never spew a word like “heretic” when someone is just bringing to light what Scripture actually says.

  19. femi permalink
    May 12, 2011

    man was designed to live eternally but after eating d forbidden fruit lost eternal life and JESUS our creator came to give us eternal life but refusal means eternal death(hell) not burning or eternal distruction. its very logical. the doctrine of burning fire is to threaten people to love God. I believe anybody who threaten u to love them doesnt really love you. God = Love. he dwells amongst us when we love each other. If God will threaten me to love him with hell, im sorry i cant love him. God in d bible appeals to us to choose life (in Exodus) so we will not perish or die the second death. peace. john 3:16

    • femi permalink
      May 12, 2011

      to me hell is regection of Gods love i.e. Christ which leads to eternal/permanent death/destruction. If we accept Christ the Second death will have no power over us.

  20. donya permalink
    June 19, 2011

    hello.tankyou

  21. July 4, 2011

    Thanks Julie – just finished reading the book – I think more people should read it and not immediately assume they know what he is going to say. Does he ask a lot of provoking questions? Yes. Does he answer them all in a tight neat, little box? No. If the reader comes away with more questions than answers, I think Rob Bell has done his job well.

    My critique/question was actually this – about halfway through the book, I realized I had read the ideas before. C. S. Lewis said the same thing. Even the beloved “Chronicles of Narnia” has this theme in the last book “The Last Battle” many of Lewis’s books – and I have read almost all of them – touch or at least probe along the same lines, though Lewis doesn’t ask as provocatively as Bell does. He slips it in there in “The Problem of Pain” as well as in “A Grief Observed” and there are themes of that sort throughout his writings. I noticed in the acknowledgements section in the back that Bell thanks his parents for “teaching him to read C. S. Lewis.” The book “The Great Divorce” which Bell references in the back is very similar only in story form.

    Another one to consider is Don Richardson’s “Eternity in Their Hearts” Richardson probes why so many cultures already had elements if the Christ story in their tribal religions. The Karen of Burma and Thailand are an example he uses – why did these people with no Christian influence, already have the heart of the gospel? Richardson, likely not wanting to get into debates, as the idea that tribal religions could lead to Christ doesn’t really answer – but it raises some questions that do need to be explored. Rob Bell makes note of this as well, but also doesn’t explore it – C.S. Lewis does a little as well, as he said it was his study of the redemptive elements in other religions that gradually led him to Christ.

    So what is the answer? I think Bell’s point as Julie stated, was just to get the conversation going again. Every 50-60 years it probably needs to be asked. Maybe in the future, people will be looking back at Bell’s books similarly to the way they view Lewis’ books today. Then again – many people today read the “Chronicles” and then decide Lewis is a bit to hard to think about…..

  22. Sigh.... permalink
    July 12, 2011

    I think that he is a universalist… he does SAY he believed in hell, but he believes in his own interpretation of it and not in the Bibles (very clear and very clearly defined, sorry)… ultimately he is using words that are complicated and twisted to make a muddled point with no clear definitions. He is also taking scripture out of context… I would encourage supporters of the book to read whole chapters of scripture that he quotes.
    Also, why is hell (the biblical definition, not the Rob Bell one) proof that love somehow looses? For love to be love it has to involve free will. God, knowing what would happen chose to put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden and then man chose to be condemned. Satan (who is not mentioned in love wins… wonder who doesn’t want Satan talked about… maybe he himself?) was able to take authority over earth, and Christ died so that we could have a way of coming back to God… God did forgive everyone but those who choose Satan are condemned with him, Christ makes that rather clear.
    As for Christianity being right or wrong, it is the only way. How will the world know we are Christians? Not by our theological debates but by our love… Heaven and Hell were never supposed to be the rock on which the church stood… that is the Love of Christ. We can’t and won’t get all of the answers for eternity until we are there; I choose to believe Jesus over Rob Bell and not take a chance that a mortal man knows more then the church at large for thousands of years… thank you.

  23. grace permalink
    July 17, 2011

    So if love wins what about Satan and all his angels? Is God going to reconcile them to himself? And what about Antichrist? Does God love him too and we can expect to see him in Heaven too?? Doctrinally this book is way off beam. It is not inspired by God but Satan himself…the great deceiver and father of lies. Julie! You’ve been well and truly sucked in by him. It has been appointed for man once to die and then to face the judgement. There are no second chances. God eternally loves his own, the sheep that he called and for whom Christ died. The rest WILL perish outside of that love. Man will believe anything but the truth but I believe the Bible when it says that when the Lambs book of Life is opened, those whose names are not written in it will be cast into the Lake of Fire eternally. God is sovereign, not me or any man.

    • August 9, 2011

      It has been appointed for man once to die and then to face the judgement. There are no second chances. God eternally loves his own, the sheep that he called and for whom Christ died. The rest WILL perish outside of that love. Man will believe anything but the truth but I believe the Bible when it says that when the Lambs book of Life is opened, those whose names are not written in it will be cast into the Lake of Fire eternally.

      Grace – honest question: if what you say is true, then why in the world would you want to worship or follow such a God? What you have just described is NOT a good God. What you have described is a Nieztschean, Hitler-esque “might makes right” kind of God. If I believed that kind of a God actually existed, I think I would be morally driven to oppose such a monster.

      • Greg permalink
        September 2, 2011

        Your question is irrelevant – “if what you say is true, then why in the world would you want to worship or follow such a God?” The call to worship is given to us not on the basis of the goodness of God but on the sole foundation that He is the One who created us for Himself. The way He interacts with His creation reveals the holiness and indescribable complexity of His Person. I wonder how you read Romans 9 …

        God says “Be holy as I am holy …” (Lev. 20:26). Deut. 6 calls Israel to worship God not because He is good, loving, fatherly or whatever, but because God says ‘you are mine’ (very much in keeping with Exodus 20, Psalm 139, Acts 17, …).

        And calling God who vindicates His holiness and righteousness and glory “monster” does not serve one’s cause very well. It sounds very much like the reaction of people in Revelation 16, who when experiencing God’s judgment instead of repenting and giving glory to God (because HE IS GOD, not because He is good or something else) cursed Him instead.

        And on the goodness of God – how can you even say “(this God you speak of) is NOT a good God”? Seriously – how can your concept of “goodness” judge the character of God? As if anyone of us is qualified to give this kind of moral judgment on the One whose eyes are “too pure to look at evil” (Hab. 1:13). As if our moral capacity has risen above God’s holiness and now we are able to judge the One who is going to judge us.

  24. August 6, 2011

    Excellent post. I was checking continuously this blog and I’m impressed!

  25. August 19, 2012

    Rob did a good job making us ( the super saved ones
    that already have the privilege to have our names in
    The Book Of Life) to question the
    translation of those words Hell and Heaven. He just thinks
    that the others that Yeshua died for too will have their time
    for reconciliation as the door will be always open in the time of
    Judgement and after…I know a pastor that died and he
    Died before knowing Yeshua as a savior and He was so
    Amazed by God waves of l and knowing him

    I just hope also that God has a plan and that
    the last judgment will surprise everyone because
    The Glory of Yeshua will be revealed and if few resist
    Because of Pride will be just few and

  26. August 19, 2012

    I mean the pastor was so amazed about the waves
    Of Love of God in the person of Yeshua received
    Him in Heaven and God asked him to return to
    Tell the good news…. We must show God s love
    As The hell is real but I also believe Yeshua
    Died For All and if they reject Him they will
    Definitely pass to Hell but the rest we can not
    say much as the translation in English are really
    Dangerous … Jesus name is already a problem
    ( I do not care much but we call The Lord Jesus?)
    Do you see… We Got Used to accept bad translations
    And Make doctrines truth . The Father of Love
    Is Not in the Box … My husband died went to
    Heaven and he was delighted … I saw angels of light
    And angels in flesh, they had food with me,
    And I really do not care about if Rob is totally
    Right, but I care of showing the good news that
    Yeshua died for us and it’s all done and we are all
    Forgiven if we want or not to be and if people
    Wants to choose Hell it’s sad but who did not have the
    Privilege of knowing the Word may will have a
    A chance after death in the judgment or straight away
    As it’s still a mystery to me yet … I think we are privileged to know now and Live
    Knowing the Light and we are commanded to shine light love
    Not Hell and darkness …
    It’s the Holly Spirit job… The peace of our Lord Yeshua to u all.

  27. August 19, 2012

    I mean the pastor that died befored he accepted Yeshua
    was so amazed about the waves of Love of Yeshua in Heaven
    And he saw the New Earth and Yeshua asked him to return
    To tell what he saw to inspire others to believe
    The Father s love is so amazing .
    I saw angels of light and I saw angels in flesh,
    they had food with me not just one time they appeared
    And I am a sinner that Loves The Lord …
    And I really do not care about if Rob is totally
    Right, but I care of showing the good news that
    Yeshua died for us and it’s all done and we are all
    Forgiven if we want or not to be and if people
    Wants to choose Hell it’s sad but who did not have the
    Privilege of knowing the Word may will have a
    A chance after death in the judgment or straight away
    As it’s still a mystery to me yet … I think we are privileged to know now and Live
    Knowing the Light and we are commanded to shine light love
    Not Hell and darkness …
    It’s the Holly Spirit job… The peace of our Lord Yeshua to u all.

  28. August 19, 2012

    Sorry my message was repeated … I hope it
    Inspired to Love God beyond our understanding
    Because 2000 years passed and We Are So Priviliged
    To Know so much … But we must be Light
    Not full of pride that we know … Mana it’s always
    Fresh and the Lord is acting now in 2012
    In our context …. Paul wrote in his context and
    He thought Yeshua was returning in his time …
    In my view…. There are so many questions
    The number of the beast , etc ….It’s happening very
    fast to us after 2000 years … But only The Father knows all and the time and we are thinking that it’s soon … We do not know for sure and it’s better
    To Bless Rob and every one that is trying to include people Instead of straighting mote The Door .., because its very easy to jump from loving God and
    In the morning and in the afternoon be like a super religious like those ones of the time Yeshua … I see them in all of us Christians really ….since the early church but thank God for the Holly Spirit that is always puting us in the right place ….In a way we are all sometimes the super Christians full of pride that we know The Truth and we make people
    Really angry for nothing …because we are nothing without God s love in us … We are all sinners like them but just because we accept that we are forgiven we most of the time in our hearts become too spoiled too difficult to make Yeshua as The Door…If do good or not … It is our old nature … Thank God that we all have our vulnerability to depend on Him …if not
    It will impossible to make the work of our Lord that he asked us to do here . It’s so easy to rely in our super faith … And without Love we are nothing…
    Rob made me think … Wow!! I love The Light … I am nothing
    Without the Father s love… Please Lord erase
    This religion roots of my heart that I am totally sure
    We all Christians Have … We fight against it but it’s in our DNA … But we start everyday with our fresh mana and it’s day by day journey …

    Think that we know so much … That Killed Yeshua
    It is easy to forget that our home work from Yeshua Is to spread the good news
    to Glorify The Father …. And as he explained that our prayer most be
    to the will of The Father be done not in our Interpretation but in God s way.. as we
    Pray to our Father in Heaven and ask for his Will be done
    And forgive … And ask his help and food and help to be protected …
    Not to jugde the rest that doesnot think in the same way of us …

  29. August 19, 2012

    Sorry about my English and too many words
    … We are all the same … In need of His Love
    What a romantic l

  30. August 19, 2012

    Love

  31. August 19, 2012

    By the way my husband is alive and he said the colours in heaven it’s so beautiful

    Bye now

    Sorry sorry I m really passionate

    Enjoy life Children in the heart … Have fun in God s love

    Tomorrow our mana is coming fresh …

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx….

  32. June 17, 2013

    Way cool! Some very valid points! I appreciate you penning this write-up and the rest of the site is also really good.

  33. John Fredricksen permalink
    October 21, 2013

    My wife and I just completed Love Wins. The God Bell claims to have found in the Bible is a far more appealing God than the one most of us met in church. I think his God has as much right to claim a biblical heritage as the traditional God of the Bible. All Bible based theologies are in my opinion based on cherry picking the Bible. I don’t see anything wrong about using the Bible to support your beliefs about God. As long as we all remember all of our opinions about God are provisional; all our opinions about life after death are provisional so chill out. Agree to disagree. My take based on how i cherry pick the Bible is that we are saved exclusively by the grace of God and not by works of right believing, right Bible reading, right thoughts about hell or heaven or the nature of God. No one has the right to limit God’s grace. No one has the right to tell God what She can do or not do. So I trust God and hope for happy endings and of course this too is biblical.

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