Comments on: Violence from the Past http://julieclawson.com/2010/06/03/violence-from-the-past/ incantations at the edge of uncertainty Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:00:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Wednesday Link List « Thinking Out Loud http://julieclawson.com/2010/06/03/violence-from-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-7317 Wednesday Link List « Thinking Out Loud Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:25:48 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=1577#comment-7317 [...] “The day after we here in the U.S. paused to remember the men and women who had died fighting for our country, the fight continued from beyond the grave. On Tuesday [June 1] in the town of Göttingen, Germany a World War 2 era bomb exploded killing three people and injuring six others.” So begins a short essay by Julie Clawson, “Violence from the Past.” [...] [...] "The day after we here in the U.S. paused to remember the men and women who had died fighting for our country, the fight continued from beyond the grave. On Tuesday [June 1] in the town of Göttingen, Germany a World War 2 era bomb exploded killing three people and injuring six others." So begins a short essay by Julie Clawson, "Violence from the Past." [...]

]]> By: Pastor Mack http://julieclawson.com/2010/06/03/violence-from-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-7314 Pastor Mack Tue, 08 Jun 2010 00:05:14 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=1577#comment-7314 Y'all are right. Violence never solves anything and can never be just. That's why Christians shouldn't serve on police forces. Oh, wait... Y'all are right. Violence never solves anything and can never be just. That's why Christians shouldn't serve on police forces.

Oh, wait…

]]> By: Minnow http://julieclawson.com/2010/06/03/violence-from-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-7308 Minnow Sun, 06 Jun 2010 00:43:10 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=1577#comment-7308 Julie--Once again your post makes me think and makes me want to teach my children well. I have only one small quibble. News cast body counts seem much more acceptable when the administration is Republican. I don't think their absence has anything at all to do with a fear that such makes the conflict too real or too human. Julie–Once again your post makes me think and makes me want to teach my children well. I have only one small quibble. News cast body counts seem much more acceptable when the administration is Republican. I don't think their absence has anything at all to do with a fear that such makes the conflict too real or too human.

]]> By: Laryn Kragt Bakker http://julieclawson.com/2010/06/03/violence-from-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-7295 Laryn Kragt Bakker Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:10:59 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=1577#comment-7295 See also: <a href="http://www.catapultmagazine.com/arms-are-for-hugging/article/the-presence-of-the-past" rel="nofollow">The presence of the past</a>, by Rachel Stone. See also: The presence of the past, by Rachel Stone.

]]> By: Br. Stephen DeWitt, OFM http://julieclawson.com/2010/06/03/violence-from-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-7294 Br. Stephen DeWitt, OFM Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:44:33 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=1577#comment-7294 For me incident like this only highlight the profound immorality of war. There is never such a thing as a just war. Christ has not called us to be people of violence, but a people who are the antidote to the violence and sin of this world. This is the essence of the kingdom of God. Sometimes this requires sacrifices up to and including our own lives or the lives of those we care about. The alternative is a never-ending cycle of violence that only perpetuates the darkness that too often characterizes this world. Violence is a perverse gift whose effects always reverberate throughout the ages in profound ways. Witness the continuing effects of racism in this country or antisemitism in the Middle East. Only when we break this cycle with the power of the Gospel can the effects of violence truly be eliminated. For me incident like this only highlight the profound immorality of war. There is never such a thing as a just war. Christ has not called us to be people of violence, but a people who are the antidote to the violence and sin of this world. This is the essence of the kingdom of God. Sometimes this requires sacrifices up to and including our own lives or the lives of those we care about. The alternative is a never-ending cycle of violence that only perpetuates the darkness that too often characterizes this world. Violence is a perverse gift whose effects always reverberate throughout the ages in profound ways. Witness the continuing effects of racism in this country or antisemitism in the Middle East. Only when we break this cycle with the power of the Gospel can the effects of violence truly be eliminated.

]]> By: Matt Stone http://julieclawson.com/2010/06/03/violence-from-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-7292 Matt Stone Fri, 04 Jun 2010 11:35:56 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=1577#comment-7292 A deeper time perspective does tend to shift things. A deeper time perspective does tend to shift things.

]]> By: Andy http://julieclawson.com/2010/06/03/violence-from-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-7285 Andy Thu, 03 Jun 2010 20:49:46 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=1577#comment-7285 I completely agree with this post, and I'm glad you wrote it. But I'm thinking about how someone might spin these types of incidents. They might say that the deaths of civilians are a demonstration of how evil our enemies are, that they force us to go to these lengths to stop them. I've heard similar statements about terrorists in Iraq who use human shields. I can think of a response or two, but I'm curious what you would say. I completely agree with this post, and I'm glad you wrote it. But I'm thinking about how someone might spin these types of incidents. They might say that the deaths of civilians are a demonstration of how evil our enemies are, that they force us to go to these lengths to stop them. I've heard similar statements about terrorists in Iraq who use human shields. I can think of a response or two, but I'm curious what you would say.

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