<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Banned Books Week 2009</title>
	<atom:link href="http://julieclawson.com/2009/09/29/banned-books-week-2009/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://julieclawson.com/2009/09/29/banned-books-week-2009/</link>
	<description>incantations at the edge of uncertainty</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 01:57:11 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mike Clawson</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2009/09/29/banned-books-week-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5468</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Clawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 03:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://julieclawson.com/?p=1211#comment-5468</guid>
		<description>Kim - It&#039;s one thing to exercise your freedom of speech to tell others why you don&#039;t approve of some book, but it&#039;s quite another to use your personal disapproval as a reason to prevent others from reading it as well. When there are differing opinions present (as there always will be), is the best solution to remove a book from the curriculum and thereby refuse to think about or discuss controversial issues, or to keep the book and use it as an opportunity to discuss differences openly and respectfully?

While your daughter may have been courageous in taking action, personally I think she took the wrong approach. Getting a book removed from the curriculum is not a &quot;median&quot; solution in my opinion. It &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; still a &quot;ban&quot; - a limited one, yes, but a ban nonetheless. And it is a ban based on one person&#039;s &lt;i&gt;personal&lt;/i&gt; opinions. Essentially your daughter is saying that her personal opinions should trump all further discussion of the issue in a classroom setting - she doesn&#039;t like the opinion represented in the book, therefore none of her classmates should have the opportunity to discuss the issue in class. In my opinion, a &quot;median&quot; approach would have been to raise one&#039;s concerns about the book with the teacher and/or administration of the school, and asked that they ensure that the book is not just presented uncritically and that there is time given for discussion of opposing opinions. Isn&#039;t that the point of school? To teach kids &lt;i&gt;how&lt;/i&gt; to think about difficult issues, not just shelter them from ever having to consider anything that might challenge their existing beliefs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim &#8211; It&#039;s one thing to exercise your freedom of speech to tell others why you don&#039;t approve of some book, but it&#039;s quite another to use your personal disapproval as a reason to prevent others from reading it as well. When there are differing opinions present (as there always will be), is the best solution to remove a book from the curriculum and thereby refuse to think about or discuss controversial issues, or to keep the book and use it as an opportunity to discuss differences openly and respectfully?</p>
<p>While your daughter may have been courageous in taking action, personally I think she took the wrong approach. Getting a book removed from the curriculum is not a &#034;median&#034; solution in my opinion. It <i>is</i> still a &#034;ban&#034; &#8211; a limited one, yes, but a ban nonetheless. And it is a ban based on one person&#039;s <i>personal</i> opinions. Essentially your daughter is saying that her personal opinions should trump all further discussion of the issue in a classroom setting &#8211; she doesn&#039;t like the opinion represented in the book, therefore none of her classmates should have the opportunity to discuss the issue in class. In my opinion, a &#034;median&#034; approach would have been to raise one&#039;s concerns about the book with the teacher and/or administration of the school, and asked that they ensure that the book is not just presented uncritically and that there is time given for discussion of opposing opinions. Isn&#039;t that the point of school? To teach kids <i>how</i> to think about difficult issues, not just shelter them from ever having to consider anything that might challenge their existing beliefs?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2009/09/29/banned-books-week-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5463</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://julieclawson.com/?p=1211#comment-5463</guid>
		<description>On the other hand, just as someone has the right and courage to push the boundaries by writing something, we should admire those who say stick up for their own personal beliefs by not allowing a book they believe harmful to not be sold in their store or for a child (my daughter) to say &quot;I do not approve of the message you are sending&quot; to her school. I do not believe anyone should have the right to have their freedom taken away. If they want to read a book, no one should stop them. But those who have just as strong convictions as an author of the opposite convictions, they should be able to make a public statement as well. 

THAT does NOT fall under the same category as banning books. THAT is exorcising the same right as the authors whom you disprove of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, just as someone has the right and courage to push the boundaries by writing something, we should admire those who say stick up for their own personal beliefs by not allowing a book they believe harmful to not be sold in their store or for a child (my daughter) to say &#034;I do not approve of the message you are sending&#034; to her school. I do not believe anyone should have the right to have their freedom taken away. If they want to read a book, no one should stop them. But those who have just as strong convictions as an author of the opposite convictions, they should be able to make a public statement as well. </p>
<p>THAT does NOT fall under the same category as banning books. THAT is exorcising the same right as the authors whom you disprove of.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2009/09/29/banned-books-week-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5461</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://julieclawson.com/?p=1211#comment-5461</guid>
		<description>Steve, that&#039;s right.  For example, a group (or individual) can bring pressure to bear on:

(1) a school, to remove a book from its curriculum (required reading), or even from its school library; or

(2) a public library, to have a book removed from the library altogether, or to have the book moved to a different location in the library - not in the children&#039;s section, or behind the reference desk available upon request; or

(3)  A bookstore (most often Christians pressuring a Christian bookstore), to not carry a controversial or &quot;dangerous&quot; book.

Usually these protests/requests/demands are denied.  Sometimes they are successful, as in the case of The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn being removed from so many public school curricula (where it was a mainstay for over a century as one of the classics of American literature) that whereas it was once the 5th most challenged book of the 1990&#039;s, while still seen as controversial it is now not at the top of most lists of frequently challenged books because it&#039;s just not in that many schools&#039; curricula any more due to so many schools responding to the pressure by removing it from their curriculum.

But it isn&#039;t a case of the government banning books and telling private citizens that they can&#039;t purchase them or read them in their own homes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, that&#039;s right.  For example, a group (or individual) can bring pressure to bear on:</p>
<p>(1) a school, to remove a book from its curriculum (required reading), or even from its school library; or</p>
<p>(2) a public library, to have a book removed from the library altogether, or to have the book moved to a different location in the library &#8211; not in the children&#039;s section, or behind the reference desk available upon request; or</p>
<p>(3)  A bookstore (most often Christians pressuring a Christian bookstore), to not carry a controversial or &#034;dangerous&#034; book.</p>
<p>Usually these protests/requests/demands are denied.  Sometimes they are successful, as in the case of The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn being removed from so many public school curricula (where it was a mainstay for over a century as one of the classics of American literature) that whereas it was once the 5th most challenged book of the 1990&#039;s, while still seen as controversial it is now not at the top of most lists of frequently challenged books because it&#039;s just not in that many schools&#039; curricula any more due to so many schools responding to the pressure by removing it from their curriculum.</p>
<p>But it isn&#039;t a case of the government banning books and telling private citizens that they can&#039;t purchase them or read them in their own homes.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Steve Hayes</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2009/09/29/banned-books-week-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5459</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://julieclawson.com/?p=1211#comment-5459</guid>
		<description>Ok, so in the USA the books are not actually banned by the government, making it illegal to possess or distribute them? It&#039;s just that someone or some group doesn&#039;t like them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so in the USA the books are not actually banned by the government, making it illegal to possess or distribute them? It&#039;s just that someone or some group doesn&#039;t like them.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Julie Clawson</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2009/09/29/banned-books-week-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5448</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Clawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://julieclawson.com/?p=1211#comment-5448</guid>
		<description>I find it amusing at times that many (most?) of the books we consider as classics these days were once banned or at least highly controversial books in their day.  They challenged the culture and pushed the boundaries of what was acceptable conversation.  They fought slavery, and racism, and sexism and really made a lot of people angry.  But now they are safe - because those issues aren&#039;t the all-consuming issues in our cultures these days. I have a feeling the books that are most banned these days will be read as classic required reading in 50 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it amusing at times that many (most?) of the books we consider as classics these days were once banned or at least highly controversial books in their day.  They challenged the culture and pushed the boundaries of what was acceptable conversation.  They fought slavery, and racism, and sexism and really made a lot of people angry.  But now they are safe &#8211; because those issues aren&#039;t the all-consuming issues in our cultures these days. I have a feeling the books that are most banned these days will be read as classic required reading in 50 years.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Robyn</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2009/09/29/banned-books-week-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5447</link>
		<dc:creator>Robyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://julieclawson.com/?p=1211#comment-5447</guid>
		<description>Books I&#039;ve both read and liked from the lists linked in the post:
To Kill a Mockingbird
Lord of the Flies
Brave New World
Lady Chatterly&#039;s Lover
For Whom the Bell Tolls
The Supernaturalist
My Brother Sam is Dead
The Kite Runner
Wicked
The Golden Compass, and trilogy
My Sister&#039;s Keeper
The Lovely Bones
*A People&#039;s History of the United States

Also, numerous Judy Blume books (often objected to and banned), the Harry Potter Series, Lord of the Rings Series. Never liked Catcher in the Rye, but I have read it.

I doubt I will &quot;ban&quot; any books from my children. My parents never did. If they are interested, I will let them read it and then discuss it with them. I&#039;ll explain, as needed, and say, &quot;Some people believe this. Others believe that. I believe xyz. What do you think?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Books I&#039;ve both read and liked from the lists linked in the post:<br />
To Kill a Mockingbird<br />
Lord of the Flies<br />
Brave New World<br />
Lady Chatterly&#039;s Lover<br />
For Whom the Bell Tolls<br />
The Supernaturalist<br />
My Brother Sam is Dead<br />
The Kite Runner<br />
Wicked<br />
The Golden Compass, and trilogy<br />
My Sister&#039;s Keeper<br />
The Lovely Bones<br />
*A People&#039;s History of the United States</p>
<p>Also, numerous Judy Blume books (often objected to and banned), the Harry Potter Series, Lord of the Rings Series. Never liked Catcher in the Rye, but I have read it.</p>
<p>I doubt I will &#034;ban&#034; any books from my children. My parents never did. If they are interested, I will let them read it and then discuss it with them. I&#039;ll explain, as needed, and say, &#034;Some people believe this. Others believe that. I believe xyz. What do you think?&#034;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2009/09/29/banned-books-week-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5446</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://julieclawson.com/?p=1211#comment-5446</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m surprised the Potter series didn&#039;t make the 2008-09 list. They&#039;re so much fun; I enjoy exasperating my fundie &quot;friends&quot; on Facebook by being a &quot;fan&quot; of Rowling (and Charles Darwin, too).

My favorite book on this 08-09 list is the one my wife is currently reading--Phillip Pullman&#039;s &quot;The Golden Compass.&quot; This book, the first of the &quot;His Dark Materials&quot; trilogy, is so strange I wonder why anyone, even a Catholic school, would bother banning it. I&#039;m sure that most readers regard Pullman&#039;s portrayal of the church as a caricature at best.

I&#039;m not actually sure I like the series--my tolerance for strangeness has its limits--but I &quot;enjoyed&quot; seeing it on the list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m surprised the Potter series didn&#039;t make the 2008-09 list. They&#039;re so much fun; I enjoy exasperating my fundie &#034;friends&#034; on Facebook by being a &#034;fan&#034; of Rowling (and Charles Darwin, too).</p>
<p>My favorite book on this 08-09 list is the one my wife is currently reading&#8211;Phillip Pullman&#039;s &#034;The Golden Compass.&#034; This book, the first of the &#034;His Dark Materials&#034; trilogy, is so strange I wonder why anyone, even a Catholic school, would bother banning it. I&#039;m sure that most readers regard Pullman&#039;s portrayal of the church as a caricature at best.</p>
<p>I&#039;m not actually sure I like the series&#8211;my tolerance for strangeness has its limits&#8211;but I &#034;enjoyed&#034; seeing it on the list.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Shawna R. B. Atteberry</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2009/09/29/banned-books-week-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5445</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawna R. B. Atteberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://julieclawson.com/?p=1211#comment-5445</guid>
		<description>My favorite on the classics list is The Hitchhiker&#039;s Guide to the Galaxy. And I&#039;m very disappointed that Are You There God? It&#039;s Me, Margaret is not on the list. What kind of banned book list is this? Or am I just that old?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite on the classics list is The Hitchhiker&#039;s Guide to the Galaxy. And I&#039;m very disappointed that Are You There God? It&#039;s Me, Margaret is not on the list. What kind of banned book list is this? Or am I just that old?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Steve Thorngate</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2009/09/29/banned-books-week-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5444</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Thorngate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://julieclawson.com/?p=1211#comment-5444</guid>
		<description>My favorite banned/challenged book is Virginia Woolf&#039;s &lt;i&gt;To the Lighthouse,&lt;/i&gt; with Willa Cather&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Death Comes for the Archbishop&lt;/i&gt; a close second. The problems of censorship itself aside, the idea of reading Cather and finding her unacceptably controversial is astonishing to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite banned/challenged book is Virginia Woolf&#039;s <i>To the Lighthouse,</i> with Willa Cather&#039;s <i>Death Comes for the Archbishop</i> a close second. The problems of censorship itself aside, the idea of reading Cather and finding her unacceptably controversial is astonishing to me.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2009/09/29/banned-books-week-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5442</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://julieclawson.com/?p=1211#comment-5442</guid>
		<description>I knew it was a frequent target, but was surprised to see on the website you linked that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was the 5th most-challenged book of the 1990&#039;s, 4 spots ahead of Heather Has Two Mommies.  

Pretty impressive for a book more than a century old that was initially banned in many places upon its publication in 1885, albeit for altogether different reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew it was a frequent target, but was surprised to see on the website you linked that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was the 5th most-challenged book of the 1990&#039;s, 4 spots ahead of Heather Has Two Mommies.  </p>
<p>Pretty impressive for a book more than a century old that was initially banned in many places upon its publication in 1885, albeit for altogether different reasons.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

