Comments on: Emergent Village DC Gathering http://julieclawson.com/2009/04/27/emergent-village-dc-gathering/ incantations at the edge of uncertainty Mon, 21 May 2012 01:57:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: linda http://julieclawson.com/2009/04/27/emergent-village-dc-gathering/comment-page-1/#comment-4788 linda Thu, 07 May 2009 10:03:15 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=996#comment-4788 julie, i've been meaning to mention that when i first read of your inability to speak at this conference it struck me that this might be a prophetic experience. i think maybe God was giving you--and everyone there thru your experience--a tangible experience of not being able to be heard and instead focused on listening to the voices of others. julie, i've been meaning to mention that when i first read of your inability to speak at this conference it struck me that this might be a prophetic experience. i think maybe God was giving you–and everyone there thru your experience–a tangible experience of not being able to be heard and instead focused on listening to the voices of others.

]]> By: revmama http://julieclawson.com/2009/04/27/emergent-village-dc-gathering/comment-page-1/#comment-4711 revmama Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:07:51 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=996#comment-4711 Thanks, Julie. This is great. And please do write more as it comes to you! Thanks, Julie. This is great. And please do write more as it comes to you!

]]> By: Julie Clawson http://julieclawson.com/2009/04/27/emergent-village-dc-gathering/comment-page-1/#comment-4710 Julie Clawson Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:59:50 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=996#comment-4710 David - there was a lot of talk about perception of insiders/outsiders this weekend. We all felt the need to have greater transparency within EV that allows all people easier access to the innerworkings of the group. Up til now information has been hard to obtain, and as much as the idea of welcoming all voices was talked about there were few channels for invitation and distribution of those voices. So we did discuss how that could change. Jon - Keep me posted about August - I look forward to connecting with you. mike - brand? really?... :) And yes all of independent people finding something important enough to us that we would willingly submit is crazy. The whole experience was so different than anything I have ever done before. Which is kinda sad. shouldn't this be how the church always functions - with trust and submitting to each other for the good of the whole? But I've never been in a place where I could so completely trust others - ever. David – there was a lot of talk about perception of insiders/outsiders this weekend. We all felt the need to have greater transparency within EV that allows all people easier access to the innerworkings of the group. Up til now information has been hard to obtain, and as much as the idea of welcoming all voices was talked about there were few channels for invitation and distribution of those voices. So we did discuss how that could change.

Jon – Keep me posted about August – I look forward to connecting with you.

mike – brand? really?… :) And yes all of independent people finding something important enough to us that we would willingly submit is crazy. The whole experience was so different than anything I have ever done before. Which is kinda sad. shouldn't this be how the church always functions – with trust and submitting to each other for the good of the whole? But I've never been in a place where I could so completely trust others – ever.

]]> By: Mike Stavlund http://julieclawson.com/2009/04/27/emergent-village-dc-gathering/comment-page-1/#comment-4709 Mike Stavlund Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:41:51 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=996#comment-4709 Julie, thanks so much for these thoughts. They really resonated with my experience-- especially the part about this weekend being exhausting! And I too was struck by how all of us fiercely independent and innovative people truly submitted to one another and to the process-- that was no small miracle, from my perspective. I also wanted to say that my personal fears of the possible 'death of emergent' and my concerns about helping the agents of emergence to be empowered to do their thing(s) were allayed by my constant reflection that people like you and Mike and others have been so effective at gathering people for events and projects. The fact that you've started so many things like Emerging Women, Emerging Parents, and The Brand of Julie Clawson give me a lot of hope for the distributive goodness of EV. (BTW, I refer to your brand with not the slightest hint of snark-- I'm really glad that you're writing and leading and doing your entrepreneurial thing. The world is a better place for it!) Julie, thanks so much for these thoughts. They really resonated with my experience– especially the part about this weekend being exhausting! And I too was struck by how all of us fiercely independent and innovative people truly submitted to one another and to the process– that was no small miracle, from my perspective.

I also wanted to say that my personal fears of the possible 'death of emergent' and my concerns about helping the agents of emergence to be empowered to do their thing(s) were allayed by my constant reflection that people like you and Mike and others have been so effective at gathering people for events and projects. The fact that you've started so many things like Emerging Women, Emerging Parents, and The Brand of Julie Clawson give me a lot of hope for the distributive goodness of EV. (BTW, I refer to your brand with not the slightest hint of snark– I'm really glad that you're writing and leading and doing your entrepreneurial thing. The world is a better place for it!)

]]> By: Jon http://julieclawson.com/2009/04/27/emergent-village-dc-gathering/comment-page-1/#comment-4708 Jon Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:11:57 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=996#comment-4708 Thank you for this Julie. It was great meeting you there and I share your sentiments about not letting EV die in hopes of new growth. In many ways I feel like the season of dormancy is what EV is in right now. New life can occur without a forest fire. Check your datebook for early August, maybe we can squeeze an interview in for your new book! Thank you for this Julie. It was great meeting you there and I share your sentiments about not letting EV die in hopes of new growth. In many ways I feel like the season of dormancy is what EV is in right now. New life can occur without a forest fire.

Check your datebook for early August, maybe we can squeeze an interview in for your new book!

]]> By: #EVDC09 - Emerging Distillations « Baptimergent http://julieclawson.com/2009/04/27/emergent-village-dc-gathering/comment-page-1/#comment-4707 #EVDC09 - Emerging Distillations « Baptimergent Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:43:04 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=996#comment-4707 [...] only four participants have recovered to the point of being able to blog about their experiences. Julie Clawson (@Julie) was the first to share which, as reported by @emergentvillage, was ironic due to Julie [...] [...] only four participants have recovered to the point of being able to blog about their experiences. Julie Clawson (@Julie) was the first to share which, as reported by @emergentvillage, was ironic due to Julie [...]

]]> By: Christopher http://julieclawson.com/2009/04/27/emergent-village-dc-gathering/comment-page-1/#comment-4706 Christopher Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:57:32 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=996#comment-4706 EUREKA...I have been reading about this emergent village for months it seems, and never knew where it was. I am ELATED to find out that the Emergent Village is in Washington, DC! In what part of DC can I find this village? I want to see it for myself. Any help you can give (address, neighborhood, etc.) would be greatly appreciated. sincerely, christopher EUREKA…I have been reading about this emergent village for months it seems, and never knew where it was. I am ELATED to find out that the Emergent Village is in Washington, DC! In what part of DC can I find this village? I want to see it for myself. Any help you can give (address, neighborhood, etc.) would be greatly appreciated.

sincerely,
christopher

]]> By: Liz http://julieclawson.com/2009/04/27/emergent-village-dc-gathering/comment-page-1/#comment-4704 Liz Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:04:36 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=996#comment-4704 Julie – Thanks for posting this. I was curious about the meeting. I appreciate you sharing such a personal perspective. Like you, I feel a little panic when I hear talk of letting emergent die. The conversation and community has been so helpful to me. Not only do I want and need it but I think there are so many people who will need it in the coming days…like David. David – I can relate to your suspicions – I also had some of the same concerns – especially since I was older, not in full time ministry and came from a more conservative side of things. However, I have been blown away by the hospitality and generosity that is prevalent in the conversation/movement. I believe that sort of attitude flows down from people like Brian McLaren and Tony Jones. Sure there have been times when I didn’t feel my voice was as appreciated as I wanted it to be (yeah – I’m human and have an ego) but my overall experience has been great. The emergent community is made up of human beings so it certainly isn't perfect but imho it is so much better than what I had experienced in the past when it came to Christian community. (btw - I first connected with EV about 2 years ago) Julie – Thanks for posting this. I was curious about the meeting. I appreciate you sharing such
a personal perspective. Like you, I feel a little panic when I hear talk of letting emergent die. The conversation and community has been so helpful to me. Not only do I want and need it but I think there are so many people who will need it in the coming days…like David.

David – I can relate to your suspicions – I also had some of the same concerns – especially since
I was older, not in full time ministry and came from a more conservative side of things. However, I have been blown away by the hospitality and generosity that is prevalent in the conversation/movement. I believe that sort of attitude flows down from people like Brian McLaren and Tony Jones. Sure there have been times when I didn’t feel my voice was as appreciated as I wanted it to be (yeah – I’m human and have an ego) but my overall experience has been great. The emergent community is made up of human beings so it certainly isn't perfect but imho it is so much better than what I had experienced in the past when it came to Christian community. (btw – I first connected with EV about 2 years ago)

]]> By: Stefan Andre Waligur http://julieclawson.com/2009/04/27/emergent-village-dc-gathering/comment-page-1/#comment-4703 Stefan Andre Waligur Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:25:16 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=996#comment-4703 Dear Emergents, Thanks very much for your words about the D.C. gathering. Sorry I could not have been there. I would like to invite you to a gathering that is part of what we are calling a new monasticism. From AUg. 4- August 31 there will be a Pilgrimage of Peace at Rolling Ridge Retreat Center in West Virginia. It's an opportunity to share in a daily life of sung prayer, work, conversation on peace-making and more... Based on the life of the Community of Taize we'll become a contemplative community for a little while as a gesture toward something more enduring. For more info go to www.speakingofpeace.blogspot.com and also to www.rollingridge.net stefan@songsofpeace.net bsabath@sojo.net Dear Emergents,

Thanks very much for your words about the D.C. gathering. Sorry I could not have been there.
I would like to invite you to a gathering that is part of what we are calling a new monasticism. From AUg. 4- August 31 there will be a Pilgrimage of Peace at Rolling Ridge Retreat Center in West Virginia. It's an opportunity to share in a daily life of sung prayer, work, conversation on peace-making and more… Based on the life of the Community of Taize we'll become a contemplative community for a little while as a gesture toward something more enduring.
For more info go to http://www.speakingofpeace.blogspot.com and also to http://www.rollingridge.net
stefan@songsofpeace.net
bsabath@sojo.net

]]> By: David Morris http://julieclawson.com/2009/04/27/emergent-village-dc-gathering/comment-page-1/#comment-4702 David Morris Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:51:20 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/?p=996#comment-4702 I like the idea of focusing on the village part as well as the emergent part, with a concern. I am one of those who at the moment would not be part of the village. I feel myself on the cusp of the movement and think I would love to be a part of it. Sadly, my experience with other groups that start off with strong connections is that they end up drawing the boundaries around those friendships and we move from welcoming people into the village to deciding who belongs in the village. I think that is a big part of why many people do not find home in established faith communities. We are very friendly and enjoy those relationships with those we already know, we do not see those wanting to come in and be a part of what we are enjoying. I certainly hope that doesn't happen with emergent village and the larger movement. I like the idea of focusing on the village part as well as the emergent part, with a concern. I am one of those who at the moment would not be part of the village. I feel myself on the cusp of the movement and think I would love to be a part of it. Sadly, my experience with other groups that start off with strong connections is that they end up drawing the boundaries around those friendships and we move from welcoming people into the village to deciding who belongs in the village. I think that is a big part of why many people do not find home in established faith communities. We are very friendly and enjoy those relationships with those we already know, we do not see those wanting to come in and be a part of what we are enjoying.

I certainly hope that doesn't happen with emergent village and the larger movement.

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