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By: Jonathan Brink

Jonathan Brink — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:27:33 +0000

Nice post Julie.

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By: Karl

Karl — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:49:03 +0000

Julie I have mixed reactions to what seems like the raising of conversation to the status of the highest good or as the defining trait of a movement. Evangelicalism in many of its forms has been way too closed and unwilling to engage in conversation. The move toward more openness, less of a defensive posture, more conversation about more things is a good one in my eyes. But at the same time, ought everything always be up for debate within a community? I don’t think so, personally. I don’t think that’s possible.

People will differ re. exactly what is non-negotiable or what should be treated as “settled and agreed upon, at least for now” within the movement. But everyone has their non-negotiables. And if my non-negotiables are constantly treated as negotiables about which we need to have more conversation, I am going to look for another group with which to identify myself, even if I do so humbly and am willing to remain “in conversation” with people who disagree with me about what I see as non-negotiable. That may be because I have my head in the sand. But it may also be because I’ve been open minded, thought carefully through the issues and come to a conclusion I believe in strongly and don’t want to keep re-covering the same ground within the group I primarily identify with.

By: rodney neill

rodney neill — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:53:08 +0000

Hello Julie

I am not so sure that deconstructive theology is different fom classic liberal theology but that is a whole vast subject in itself. I like your blog and checking in regularly.

all the best to you, Mike and Aiden

Ps – if you get a chance to hear Pete Rollins in his US tour he is well worth it

Rodney

By: Julie Clawson

Julie Clawson — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:18:24 +0000

From the beginning emerging has been about conversation. I don’t think Scot or Dan want to end this conversation, but from the responses I have seen from others they are rejoicing in the chance to stay relevant but avoid theological conversation. I’ve got a real problem with that. It’s fine to disagree with say deconstructive theology, but box oneself in so that one doesn’t ever have to engage those ideas is disappointing. I think most of the issue is that the classic evangelicals are so suspect of exploring this theology that they have failed to realize that it is different from classic liberal theology.

By: rodney neill

rodney neill — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:03:10 +0000

I think in the future the growing influence of the deconstructive theology of Jack Caputo/Peter Rollins on the Emergent Village networks in the US (and the subsequent ripple effect in the UK) will create ongoing tensions especially with the formation of a new grouping led by S Mcknight. E Mcmanus etc based on the Lousanne Covenant (classic evangelicalism and ‘religion without religion’ liberal theology make very uneasy bedfellows). My take on the future of the emerging church conversation but I could be wrong.

Rodney

By: Kester

Kester — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:23:34 +0000

This is why Christian has always been the only label that felt comfortable for me. I don’t mean that as the snide indictment or naive statement it might sound like. I just mean that while I have tendencies that are emergent and tendencies that are Catholic and tendencies that are Protestant and tendencies that are Church of Christ (the non-denominational denomination that I grew up and left behind), the only thing I hope I’m really shooting for is Christlikeness. Which I think is true of all of us, but it’s why I get uncomfortable with the “emergent” label. Not because it’s something I’m trying to avoid, but because it isn’t something I’m trying to pursue. Christ is. And so Christian is the only label I’ve ever felt right about embracing.

Man, the more I write this the more I see how it could be misunderstood. I’m not accusing any who self-affiliate “emergent” as being less than Christian or pursuing something other than Christ. I know that isn’t so. In fact, my experience with emerging/emergent has been very similar to yours. I just avoid the emergent label for the same reason I try to avoid other denominational or doctrinal labels, because people begin to assume all sorts of specifics that may or may not be true. Christian means I’m affiliating with Christ. And I want people to assume that.

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:53:54 +0000

Hi Julie,

I just posted on Mike’s blog and then read yours. I always appreciate reading what you have to say. I can say in regards to part of your post, that there is nothing about who is “in or out” as you put it. It is about focusing around aligning around something(the evangelistic commands of Jesus). Focusing on evangelism isn’t an “in” or “out” conversation. There can be a lot of diversity around evangelism. With the network being discussed, we most likely will be using the Lausanne Covenant as a description of what we are rallying around in terms of evangelism. But if you read it, it is a globally and multi-denominationally formed document and has a lot of diversity for those who are part of Lausanne.

Anyway, wanted to just add some thoughts and thanks for sharing yours in your blog.

Dan