Comments on: America, Race, and the Church http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/ incantations at the edge of uncertainty Mon, 21 May 2012 01:57:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Brian http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2541 Brian Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:43:29 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/#comment-2541 AMEN! AMEN!

]]> By: Rachel H. Evans http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2536 Rachel H. Evans Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:24:34 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/#comment-2536 I know we've kind of moved on from this topic, but I was furious when I realized that John McCain had accepted endorsements from John Hagee and Rod Parsley. The two are known for making controversial and hateful remarks against gays, women, Catholics, and Muslims. Hagee said that Hurricane Katrina was an act of God in response to New Orleans' gay pride parades. Parsley believes it is the responsibility of the U.S. government to eradicate Islam completely. You can read these quotes and others in their entirety at: http://mediamatters.org I've also written about it on my blog: http://www.rachelheldevans.com Why isn't the media covering this like they covered Rev. Jeremiah Wright? I know that these guys are not McCain’s personal spiritual mentors, but McCain can choose to accept or reject any endorsement he pleases. Instead, he made a joint appearance with Hagee, in which he claimed to be “very proud to have Pastor Hagee’s support.” Is there a double standard here? Or is this just what people have come to expect from the religious right? I know we've kind of moved on from this topic, but I was furious when I realized that John McCain had accepted endorsements from John Hagee and Rod Parsley.

The two are known for making controversial and hateful remarks against gays, women, Catholics, and Muslims. Hagee said that Hurricane Katrina was an act of God in response to New Orleans' gay pride parades. Parsley believes it is the responsibility of the U.S. government to eradicate Islam completely.

You can read these quotes and others in their entirety at:
http://mediamatters.org
I've also written about it on my blog:
http://www.rachelheldevans.com

Why isn't the media covering this like they covered Rev. Jeremiah Wright?

I know that these guys are not McCain’s personal spiritual mentors, but McCain can choose to accept or reject any endorsement he pleases. Instead, he made a joint appearance with Hagee, in which he claimed to be “very proud to have Pastor Hagee’s support.”

Is there a double standard here? Or is this just what people have come to expect from the religious right?

]]> By: Julie Clawson http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2508 Julie Clawson Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:49:27 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/#comment-2508 <i>And if so, are they not ones the Lord will spew out of his mouth because they are neither hot not cold?</i> fantastic question Steve And if so, are they not ones the Lord will spew out of his mouth because they are neither hot not cold?

fantastic question Steve

]]> By: Ariah Fine http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2506 Ariah Fine Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:31:22 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/#comment-2506 AMEN! You are so right on. I was so happy that my pastor decided to discuss similar issues during the sermon yesterday. It needs to be addressed. AMEN! You are so right on.

I was so happy that my pastor decided to discuss similar issues during the sermon yesterday. It needs to be addressed.

]]> By: Steve Hayes http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2498 Steve Hayes Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:26:55 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/#comment-2498 Well said! It all sounds so familiar, from the apartheid time in South Africa. What I wonder is how many other US presidential candidates have been "got at" in the media for things said by their church leaders? Are all the other church leaders so bland and known for saying unmemorable things? And if so, are they not ones the Lord will spew out of his mouth because they are neither hot not cold? Well said!

It all sounds so familiar, from the apartheid time in South Africa.

What I wonder is how many other US presidential candidates have been "got at" in the media for things said by their church leaders? Are all the other church leaders so bland and known for saying unmemorable things? And if so, are they not ones the Lord will spew out of his mouth because they are neither hot not cold?

]]> By: BlakeHuggins.com · Post-Spring Break: Obama, Rev. Wright, and other Musings http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2496 BlakeHuggins.com · Post-Spring Break: Obama, Rev. Wright, and other Musings Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:16:21 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/#comment-2496 [...] go into much of the speech because everyone already has, I would point to a couple of places, here, here and here, that are worth stopping by. I add my “what they said” to [...] [...] go into much of the speech because everyone already has, I would point to a couple of places, here, here and here, that are worth stopping by. I add my "what they said" to [...]

]]> By: jonathan stegall » Blog Archive » links for 2008-03-23 http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2493 jonathan stegall » Blog Archive » links for 2008-03-23 Sun, 23 Mar 2008 23:34:12 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/#comment-2493 [...] America, Race, and the Church (tags: obama politics church racism) [...] [...] America, Race, and the Church (tags: obama politics church racism) [...]

]]> By: corey hau http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2489 corey hau Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:46:04 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/#comment-2489 Rockin' post. Thanks for saying it how it is. Rockin' post. Thanks for saying it how it is.

]]> By: Rachel H. Evans http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2488 Rachel H. Evans Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:15:25 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/#comment-2488 "Questioning the actions of a politician or the government if they are evil is a call for justice, not getting mixed up in politics. I think there should be space for things like that in the church." I totally agree with this, except in my church it ALWAYS turns into a rant against homosexuality or abortion. I think this is why I'm wary of any sermon about the "evils of America." Where I live and in my church, it's less about justice for the poor and more about anything having to do with sex. (You sorta have to look at both sides of this coin.) "Questioning the actions of a politician or the government if they are evil is a call for justice, not getting mixed up in politics. I think there should be space for things like that in the church."

I totally agree with this, except in my church it ALWAYS turns into a rant against homosexuality or abortion. I think this is why I'm wary of any sermon about the "evils of America." Where I live and in my church, it's less about justice for the poor and more about anything having to do with sex. (You sorta have to look at both sides of this coin.)

]]> By: Ed G http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2487 Ed G Sun, 23 Mar 2008 04:32:36 +0000 http://julieclawson.com/2008/03/22/america-race-and-the-church/#comment-2487 while a lot has been written on this topic, julie, this is an original and important post. well said. i've heard from a few people who have gone back and watched the full sermons in their entirety and were wondering what the issue was... i guess a single line from a sermon -- like a single line from the bible -- can be dangerous when in the wrong hands. while a lot has been written on this topic, julie, this is an original and important post. well said.

i've heard from a few people who have gone back and watched the full sermons in their entirety and were wondering what the issue was… i guess a single line from a sermon — like a single line from the bible — can be dangerous when in the wrong hands.

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