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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2008/02/07/children-violence-and-veggie-tales/comment-page-1/#comment-2132</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!

My good friend Ariah linked to your site, so I dropped by b/c of the interesting title, and also because I have a friend who works at Big Idea. And because of that, I&#039;ll just add a little bit of inside information. I don&#039;t know all the specifics, but there are quite a few things that are controlled by the owners (or producing company, like Universal in the most recent Pirates movie...where they made Pa Grape wear spectacles full time because otherwise they thought he looked too scary. ??) and Big Idea has no choice in the matter. 

Again, I don&#039;t know for sure, but I have a feeling that&#039;s why there&#039;s a fork and spoon in place of crossbones. Keen eye, though, I hadn&#039;t noticed it either. 

But this question comes up a lot with homeschooling, right? Like, do people protect our kids too much when they home school? I don&#039;t remember who it was above, but someone talked about a scary movie and mentioned how she&#039;d talked about it with her kids. I think that&#039;s key...that we&#039;re having conversation with our kids. Whether it&#039;s sex, violence, or death...certainly parents must have some sort of influence on what&#039;s viewed, but we mustn&#039;t refrain from conversation on those difficult subjects. And if entertainment is the only way kids have exposure to it (which it&#039;s not) then bring back the skull and crossbones!  :)

(I&#039;m not a parent yet. So of course nothing I say really matters when I talk about kids. heheh  But I will say that my wife and I do plan on severely limiting our kids&#039; TV time. Not because of this issue, to keep them away from violence, but because I think TV&#039;s horrible for other reasons...for all of us. :) But that&#039;s another topic.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!</p>
<p>My good friend Ariah linked to your site, so I dropped by b/c of the interesting title, and also because I have a friend who works at Big Idea. And because of that, I&#8217;ll just add a little bit of inside information. I don&#8217;t know all the specifics, but there are quite a few things that are controlled by the owners (or producing company, like Universal in the most recent Pirates movie&#8230;where they made Pa Grape wear spectacles full time because otherwise they thought he looked too scary. ??) and Big Idea has no choice in the matter. </p>
<p>Again, I don&#8217;t know for sure, but I have a feeling that&#8217;s why there&#8217;s a fork and spoon in place of crossbones. Keen eye, though, I hadn&#8217;t noticed it either. </p>
<p>But this question comes up a lot with homeschooling, right? Like, do people protect our kids too much when they home school? I don&#8217;t remember who it was above, but someone talked about a scary movie and mentioned how she&#8217;d talked about it with her kids. I think that&#8217;s key&#8230;that we&#8217;re having conversation with our kids. Whether it&#8217;s sex, violence, or death&#8230;certainly parents must have some sort of influence on what&#8217;s viewed, but we mustn&#8217;t refrain from conversation on those difficult subjects. And if entertainment is the only way kids have exposure to it (which it&#8217;s not) then bring back the skull and crossbones!  <img src='http://julieclawson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(I&#8217;m not a parent yet. So of course nothing I say really matters when I talk about kids. heheh  But I will say that my wife and I do plan on severely limiting our kids&#8217; TV time. Not because of this issue, to keep them away from violence, but because I think TV&#8217;s horrible for other reasons&#8230;for all of us. <img src='http://julieclawson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  But that&#8217;s another topic.)</p>
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		<title>By: Links: Vegetarian, Violence, Samaritan, Purple People, Voting, Green and Corporations at Trying to follow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links: Vegetarian, Violence, Samaritan, Purple People, Voting, Green and Corporations at Trying to follow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Julie Clawson</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2008/02/07/children-violence-and-veggie-tales/comment-page-1/#comment-2074</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Clawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow - a lot to respond to...

Karl - thanks for the quote, I like the spirit of it.


John - let me tell you, I could very well do with never having to hear the &quot;pirates who don&#039;t do anything&quot; song ever again...  but I fear I have years to go before that day arrives.

Drew - there are a number of movies that scare Emma and she asks us to turn off.  Sometimes she wants to talk about them, other times no.  She is very timid at times and a lot of things scare her. She just turned three and I think it would be foolish to push her in some of these areas.  But sheltering her forever is not my goal either.  I was like that as a child and I still vividly recall where my parents pushed me too early.  Since I was(am) tall I reached the minimum height to ride the Six Flags Roller Coaster at a really young age and my parents made me do it.  I cried the whole time and to this day HATE roller coasters.  Similarly my dad started reading the Narnia books to me when I was three.  I did okay until we reached The Horse and His Boy, but the scene in the desert of them being chased by a lion gave me nightmares.  He put the series aside for another year or so at that point...  

Cody - I agree, a lot of this has to do with economic status.  As bad as helicopter parenting is, I think it&#039;s worse that some parents don&#039;t have the means to protect their children.  When a person&#039;s income determines if they have to live where their children see violence everyday, or if the kid has to work in a sweatshop, or if they get sold into sex slavery to pay of the parent&#039;s medical debt there are serious things wrong in the world.  Its messed up that we freak out about kids seeing skulls and crossbones or knowing where the food on our table comes from and there are kids around the world who are forced to witness their mothers raped and slaughtered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow &#8211; a lot to respond to&#8230;</p>
<p>Karl &#8211; thanks for the quote, I like the spirit of it.</p>
<p>John &#8211; let me tell you, I could very well do with never having to hear the &#8220;pirates who don&#8217;t do anything&#8221; song ever again&#8230;  but I fear I have years to go before that day arrives.</p>
<p>Drew &#8211; there are a number of movies that scare Emma and she asks us to turn off.  Sometimes she wants to talk about them, other times no.  She is very timid at times and a lot of things scare her. She just turned three and I think it would be foolish to push her in some of these areas.  But sheltering her forever is not my goal either.  I was like that as a child and I still vividly recall where my parents pushed me too early.  Since I was(am) tall I reached the minimum height to ride the Six Flags Roller Coaster at a really young age and my parents made me do it.  I cried the whole time and to this day HATE roller coasters.  Similarly my dad started reading the Narnia books to me when I was three.  I did okay until we reached The Horse and His Boy, but the scene in the desert of them being chased by a lion gave me nightmares.  He put the series aside for another year or so at that point&#8230;  </p>
<p>Cody &#8211; I agree, a lot of this has to do with economic status.  As bad as helicopter parenting is, I think it&#8217;s worse that some parents don&#8217;t have the means to protect their children.  When a person&#8217;s income determines if they have to live where their children see violence everyday, or if the kid has to work in a sweatshop, or if they get sold into sex slavery to pay of the parent&#8217;s medical debt there are serious things wrong in the world.  Its messed up that we freak out about kids seeing skulls and crossbones or knowing where the food on our table comes from and there are kids around the world who are forced to witness their mothers raped and slaughtered.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewlsntexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jewlsntexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha - Veggie Tales in college - they can be like a psychedelic drug!! 

Christian parents can sometimes shield their kids too much - having kids that think the world is perfect does not  well-rounded grown-up make.  I don&#039;t enjoy that my kids have to know evil is in the world but I do find it a privilege and opportunity to have those discussions with them, as they process what is going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha &#8211; Veggie Tales in college &#8211; they can be like a psychedelic drug!! </p>
<p>Christian parents can sometimes shield their kids too much &#8211; having kids that think the world is perfect does not  well-rounded grown-up make.  I don&#8217;t enjoy that my kids have to know evil is in the world but I do find it a privilege and opportunity to have those discussions with them, as they process what is going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, I hadn&#039;t noticed the changes, although my kids are past Veggie tales.  As a pre-school teacher I play the videos, but don&#039;t pay attention.

As a mom, I have often said that if I could get away with it my kids would live in a bubble where nothing could hurt them.  I tend to be protective, but those tough subjects such as death, or whatever have given my husband and I great opportunity to have disscusions with our kids about hard subjects.  When my daughter was in the 5th grade a class mate died in a car accident.  I can&#039;t imagine how she would have dealt with that if we weren&#039;t open and ready to face it with her.  I want to protect my kids and shield them from hurtful or painful things, but I also want them to be emotionally ready to face the evils of the real world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, I hadn&#8217;t noticed the changes, although my kids are past Veggie tales.  As a pre-school teacher I play the videos, but don&#8217;t pay attention.</p>
<p>As a mom, I have often said that if I could get away with it my kids would live in a bubble where nothing could hurt them.  I tend to be protective, but those tough subjects such as death, or whatever have given my husband and I great opportunity to have disscusions with our kids about hard subjects.  When my daughter was in the 5th grade a class mate died in a car accident.  I can&#8217;t imagine how she would have dealt with that if we weren&#8217;t open and ready to face it with her.  I want to protect my kids and shield them from hurtful or painful things, but I also want them to be emotionally ready to face the evils of the real world.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 03:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(I did live in Wheaton during it’s heyday)&quot;

Like living in Chicago during the Bulls great championship run... which, I guess, is about the same time.  

My first exposure to Veggie Tales was in Wheaton.  Well, it was at Wheaton, in a class.  For whatever reason that I didn&#039;t bother to ask, one fine morning the professor came out onto the stage in the big lecture room in Armerding.  He told us he had a change of pace for us.  And for the rest of the geology 101 class we watched Veggie Tales.  

Cream of the crop in action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(I did live in Wheaton during it’s heyday)&#8221;</p>
<p>Like living in Chicago during the Bulls great championship run&#8230; which, I guess, is about the same time.  </p>
<p>My first exposure to Veggie Tales was in Wheaton.  Well, it was at Wheaton, in a class.  For whatever reason that I didn&#8217;t bother to ask, one fine morning the professor came out onto the stage in the big lecture room in Armerding.  He told us he had a change of pace for us.  And for the rest of the geology 101 class we watched Veggie Tales.  </p>
<p>Cream of the crop in action.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lynch</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife had a college roommate who would sing the Veggie Tales song &quot;Where Is My Hairbrush?&quot; every time she couldn&#039;t find her brush.  Since that painful era all reference to Veggie Tales have been received with... mmmmm... a lack of enthusiasm in our family. Can ya blame her?  =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife had a college roommate who would sing the Veggie Tales song &#8220;Where Is My Hairbrush?&#8221; every time she couldn&#8217;t find her brush.  Since that painful era all reference to Veggie Tales have been received with&#8230; mmmmm&#8230; a lack of enthusiasm in our family. Can ya blame her?  =)</p>
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		<title>By: Roundup From Around The Web: Children’s ministry and Randomness &#171; Coffee Klatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roundup From Around The Web: Children’s ministry and Randomness &#171; Coffee Klatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Children, Violence, and Veggie Tales – this first link is a blog by Julie Clawson at Onehandclapping. I have read Julie’s blog from the sidelines off and on for a year now and she has often challenged me and stretched my thinking. I really enjoy reading her blog and thought this blog in particular was worth sharing today. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Children, Violence, and Veggie Tales – this first link is a blog by Julie Clawson at Onehandclapping. I have read Julie’s blog from the sidelines off and on for a year now and she has often challenged me and stretched my thinking. I really enjoy reading her blog and thought this blog in particular was worth sharing today. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ed G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post</description>
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		<title>By: Pistol Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pistol Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn&#039;t noticed that about the &quot;Pirates Who Don&#039;t Do Anything&quot;.  Good observation and thoughtful reflection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t noticed that about the &#8220;Pirates Who Don&#8217;t Do Anything&#8221;.  Good observation and thoughtful reflection.</p>
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