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		<title>By: Bee</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2008/02/06/jesus-the-illegal-immigrant/comment-page-1/#comment-7410</link>
		<dc:creator>Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 01:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were face to face with Jesus, would you really call him an illegal immigrant? 
John 8:23, And he said to them, &quot;you are from beneath, I am from above, You are of this world, I am not of this world.&quot;
You need to repent.
The illegals work here to build themselves homes in Mexico. Some even quit their jobs in Mexico to come here. For free services. They build their new homes in Mexico-interest free. 
But Americans here, lose their jobs and homes.
America needs to repent, then our Lord will heal our nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were face to face with Jesus, would you really call him an illegal immigrant?<br />
John 8:23, And he said to them, &#034;you are from beneath, I am from above, You are of this world, I am not of this world.&#034;<br />
You need to repent.<br />
The illegals work here to build themselves homes in Mexico. Some even quit their jobs in Mexico to come here. For free services. They build their new homes in Mexico-interest free.<br />
But Americans here, lose their jobs and homes.<br />
America needs to repent, then our Lord will heal our nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Nayan</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2008/02/06/jesus-the-illegal-immigrant/comment-page-1/#comment-7139</link>
		<dc:creator>Nayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 13:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was searching for scriptures that showed Jesus was an illegal immigrant and found your site instead. Very humorous post. Can you provide scriptures to emphasize your position?

FYI, I found these articles that offered a kingdom perspective on other social issues. You might find it interesting.
http://www.scottwebsterministries.org/category/prophetic-briefs/newsletters/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was searching for scriptures that showed Jesus was an illegal immigrant and found your site instead. Very humorous post. Can you provide scriptures to emphasize your position?</p>
<p>FYI, I found these articles that offered a kingdom perspective on other social issues. You might find it interesting.<br />
<a href="http://www.scottwebsterministries.org/category/prophetic-briefs/newsletters/" rel="nofollow">http://www.scottwebsterministries.org/category/prophetic-briefs/newsletters/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Obed Arango</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2008/02/06/jesus-the-illegal-immigrant/comment-page-1/#comment-6919</link>
		<dc:creator>Obed Arango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a mexican immigrant, I am a believer. I am marching this Sunda in Washington D.C. Since many years ago I have been reflecting in the &quot;God of the Immigrants&quot;. Because in my own experience God has been ther for me and my family, he does not see if we have documents or not. In the Bible I see his presence among immigrants. 

Today in Face Book account a Friend of mine wrote against the rally another one in favour, both Christians and me with some dark humor wrote 

&quot;Thanks Rose! I really appreciated my friend. I am sure that Jesus is marching with us. We need that immigration reform. 
Now let me just a little bit of dark humor...
(And If ICE take me, I have to say it! I am taking Jesus with me!!! But do not worry guys Jesus promised to come back with documents or without documents!... the question is if you will receive it, even if he comes back without documents. - You Rose I am sure, I am asking other readers of this :)&quot;

I believe that Jesus is marching with us and if ICE take us away , Jesus will be there also with us. And yes Jesus will be deprted too. 

Thanks for posting this. It is encouraging. 

Shalom (peace with justice) 

Obed 

Pd. Obed Arango Facebook  &quot;After I have witness abuse. After I have seen pain and sorrow. After I have listened words full of cynicism and selfishness and see abusive destructive actions. Today I want to say. We will not give up and give a step back to return to Egypt where we were slaves. MARCH WITH US to Washington D.C. for an immigration Reform. MARCH 21, 2010&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a mexican immigrant, I am a believer. I am marching this Sunda in Washington D.C. Since many years ago I have been reflecting in the &#034;God of the Immigrants&#034;. Because in my own experience God has been ther for me and my family, he does not see if we have documents or not. In the Bible I see his presence among immigrants. </p>
<p>Today in Face Book account a Friend of mine wrote against the rally another one in favour, both Christians and me with some dark humor wrote </p>
<p>&#034;Thanks Rose! I really appreciated my friend. I am sure that Jesus is marching with us. We need that immigration reform.<br />
Now let me just a little bit of dark humor&#8230;<br />
(And If ICE take me, I have to say it! I am taking Jesus with me!!! But do not worry guys Jesus promised to come back with documents or without documents!&#8230; the question is if you will receive it, even if he comes back without documents. &#8211; You Rose I am sure, I am asking other readers of this <img src='http://julieclawson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#034;</p>
<p>I believe that Jesus is marching with us and if ICE take us away , Jesus will be there also with us. And yes Jesus will be deprted too. </p>
<p>Thanks for posting this. It is encouraging. </p>
<p>Shalom (peace with justice) </p>
<p>Obed </p>
<p>Pd. Obed Arango Facebook  &#034;After I have witness abuse. After I have seen pain and sorrow. After I have listened words full of cynicism and selfishness and see abusive destructive actions. Today I want to say. We will not give up and give a step back to return to Egypt where we were slaves. MARCH WITH US to Washington D.C. for an immigration Reform. MARCH 21, 2010&#034;</p>
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		<title>By: Flight Training</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2008/02/06/jesus-the-illegal-immigrant/comment-page-1/#comment-4400</link>
		<dc:creator>Flight Training</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to comment and thank the author, good stuff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to comment and thank the author, good stuff</p>
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		<title>By: Links: at Trying to follow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links: at Trying to follow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the quote of the day from a liturgy in Jesus the Illegal Immigrant:  Jesus: They call me Jesus. I come begging for help for my twelve friends. When we got off the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Random Acts of Linkage #47 : Subversive Influence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Acts of Linkage #47 : Subversive Influence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My trouble is that such people are coming, for the most part, from supposedly Christian countries. What is the responsibility of Christianity to help keep families together and not have to leave everything they know in order to just find enough money to eat.  

That&#039;s the scandal for me.  America has been placed in a terrible situation, and there needs to be renewal within those countries. 

Irish immigration halted, and then reversed, as the economy there grew and policies were developed to help those in poverty find jobs within their own area.  That to me seems the most Christian thing.  

Of course, we have a responsibility to those who are in need. But if we truly believe in a holistic Christianity, and the idea that America is not in fact the chosen land of God, then we have to also start really putting pressure on those countries who are willingly encouraging their own poor into great struggles.  

These are not people wanting to come to America for the great restaurants or the beautiful scenery.  They are desperate.  And that desperation is caused by the policies of those who, in very many cases, affirm Christianity as their religion.  

It&#039;s a shame.  

Jesus, remember, had some strong words for those who persecuted his followers.  Jerusalem was not excused.  Nor should those places that cause misery and heartache.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My trouble is that such people are coming, for the most part, from supposedly Christian countries. What is the responsibility of Christianity to help keep families together and not have to leave everything they know in order to just find enough money to eat.  </p>
<p>That&#039;s the scandal for me.  America has been placed in a terrible situation, and there needs to be renewal within those countries. </p>
<p>Irish immigration halted, and then reversed, as the economy there grew and policies were developed to help those in poverty find jobs within their own area.  That to me seems the most Christian thing.  </p>
<p>Of course, we have a responsibility to those who are in need. But if we truly believe in a holistic Christianity, and the idea that America is not in fact the chosen land of God, then we have to also start really putting pressure on those countries who are willingly encouraging their own poor into great struggles.  </p>
<p>These are not people wanting to come to America for the great restaurants or the beautiful scenery.  They are desperate.  And that desperation is caused by the policies of those who, in very many cases, affirm Christianity as their religion.  </p>
<p>It&#039;s a shame.  </p>
<p>Jesus, remember, had some strong words for those who persecuted his followers.  Jerusalem was not excused.  Nor should those places that cause misery and heartache.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Clawson</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2008/02/06/jesus-the-illegal-immigrant/comment-page-1/#comment-2063</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Clawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t studied the economic side of it much either Karl. I&#039;m just thinking out loud. The plus side of open immigration is that we can help so many of the &quot;huddled masses&quot; by sharing the wealth and opportunities of this nation, and if it actually ends up helping the rest of us too in the bargain, so much the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#039;t studied the economic side of it much either Karl. I&#039;m just thinking out loud. The plus side of open immigration is that we can help so many of the &#034;huddled masses&#034; by sharing the wealth and opportunities of this nation, and if it actually ends up helping the rest of us too in the bargain, so much the better.</p>
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		<title>By: amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi...I&#039;m also a recent lurker-first time poster.  I just read an artical in the Economist that addressed some of these questions. I don&#039;t claim to be smart enough to get all of it, but it seemed to be a good place to start on looking at the long term benefits of a more open immigration policy:  

http://www.economist.com/specialreports/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10286197</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&#8230;I&#039;m also a recent lurker-first time poster.  I just read an artical in the Economist that addressed some of these questions. I don&#039;t claim to be smart enough to get all of it, but it seemed to be a good place to start on looking at the long term benefits of a more open immigration policy:  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/specialreports/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10286197" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/specialreports/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10286197</a></p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://julieclawson.com/2008/02/06/jesus-the-illegal-immigrant/comment-page-1/#comment-2060</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, the quote from NY Harbor was in my mind as I typed that post.  

You ask why not let them come, and it&#039;s a good question that I&#039;m not equipped to answer, since I haven&#039;t studied the issue much.  But I&#039;m not convinced that a fully open door policy on immigration would be good in the long run either for the American poor, or for the flood of international-poor immigrants who would come.  I think you have to have some sort of restrictions.  More people may be good for the economy, but surely as with any such proposition, it is only true within certain limits.  Too much of a good thing can become a bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, the quote from NY Harbor was in my mind as I typed that post.  </p>
<p>You ask why not let them come, and it&#039;s a good question that I&#039;m not equipped to answer, since I haven&#039;t studied the issue much.  But I&#039;m not convinced that a fully open door policy on immigration would be good in the long run either for the American poor, or for the flood of international-poor immigrants who would come.  I think you have to have some sort of restrictions.  More people may be good for the economy, but surely as with any such proposition, it is only true within certain limits.  Too much of a good thing can become a bad thing.</p>
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